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Omega Constellation again - Helping a stubborn friend ...
Team,
After his disappointment with a gold Constellation - yes, the dial was redone, the same friend was in my house yesterday to upgrade his cameras firmware and he was wearing a steel Constellation.
After the firmware update was done, he told me that his Connie was acquired many years back and he was sure that everything was original.
I made a cursory comment about dishonest vendors that exists since the world started to spin and I asked to take some pictures.
My impression is that the dial was redone, it may be many years back but I never saw a Connie with that dial.
We made a small bet.
Here is the watch:
My point is that the minute markers are on the outside of the "pie" face.
Please, bring the experts. I will be more than happy to NOT collect the bet but ...
Cheers,
Nilo
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Omega Constellation again - Helping a stubborn friend ...
Team, After his disappointment with a gold Constellation - yes, the dial was redone, the same friend was in my house yesterday to upgrade his cameras firmware and he was wearing a steel Constellation. After the firmware update was done, he told me that hi...
Yes, I know ...
But I need a detailed explanation about the points that defined this redial. Cheers, Nilo
Replacement hands, too. The minute markers . . .
. . . are a dead giveaway, Nilo. The applied markers also seem odd . . . more like those seen on f300 dials than mechanical C-case Connies. Concerned, Art
Oh boy! ...
I knew that it was bad but not that bad. Did you ever saw a Connie with those minute markers? Thank you, Nilo
They look like markers used on f300 Genèves, NIlo . . .
. . . but not any pie pan Connies I know of. An image of the inner caseback would help nail this one down.
If it was a conventional case ...
But is a mono bloc styled case. Only a watchmaker can open. I go to suggest this to my very sad friend. About the hands, looking to my pics, you are right. They seem to be too short. Thanks, Nilo
I lean towards redial also, but...
...I'm not 100% convinced it is one. I've seen other dials like that. Fonts look more or less correct. Omega used several different dial styles on this reference, most were not cataloged. Here's mine: Could also be a service dial. A closer examination wou...
Is your case ...
Monobloc or conventional? Did you notice the minute marks, pointing to the outside? Thanks, Nilo
The outward minute markers appear odd . . .
. . . as do the applied markers, within the context of Constellation dials. I've seen those markers on f300s, but not on Constellations. (The hands look like genuine Omega replacements, btw, just not correct for this model.)
Hm, I am in no way an expert, but...
I would not dismiss this one so quickly. I have seen these big indexes and outward minute markers on other 168.025 - even with these hands - in "reputable places". I must admit that I thought the combination of hands and dial a bit odd - as if from two di...
The one you've shown, plus one other . . .
. . . that Nilo forwarded to me, show starburst patterns; the one Nilo's friend acquired does not. Also, there's a suspicious bubble in the paint around 11. Now that I've seen examples of what look to be truly original dials with those markers, both appli...
This is what you call ...
A bubble paint? It seems to me more like dirty. "The plot thickens". Cheers, Nilo ...
Another suspicion quenched! . . .
. . . now, we're down to vertical grain vs starburst pattern. Could be that both are correct. Any chance of taking this one to your watchmaker for a closer inspection?
Allow me to add some spicy ...
This afternoon I went to my watchmaker to collect (a Zenith, what else?) and we discussed the now famous Constellation of my friend. 1) He and another senior watchmaker of his team are betting that the watch is 100% real. 2) This watch went to a full main...
Not the last Constellation pie pan...
...that title would be reserved for the Ref. 168.0065 from the mid-1970's with cal. 1011: And of course, the new Sedna Constellation: ] I knew I had seen that 168.0025 dial pattern before out on the web. If it has the vertical brushing, it is almost certa...
"Nilo's" dial does seem to have a more white appearance
In the macro showing the spot on the dial, it seems as if the dial has a vertical brushed finish - like the one gator posted. I agree that the ones I could find pictures of display the sunburst pattern. Nikolaj
Another data point ...
My friend's watch was acquired by him more than 20 years ago, if this helps. Cheers, Nilo
It's real!!!
Today we went to our watchmaker and cracked the case open. It's real. Lost a bet. A quid but I'm happy because my friend is happy. Took many pictures that I go to post as soon I return from a party. Cheers, Nilo