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I have to respectfully disagree...

 

... a quick look at the Omega Vintage Database for Ref. 2364 has the following information:

    - Other -

    Gents' leather strap

    Reference

    CK 2364

    International collection

    1943

    Movement

      Type: Manual winding (chronometer) Caliber number: 30 T2 RG
    • Created in 1943
      17 jewels


    Functions
    Subsecond

    Case

    Stainless steel

    Case back

      Press-in
    • Full metal

    Dial

    Not available

    Crystal

    Hesalite

    Bracelet

    Leather

    Water resistance

    No

    More product information

    Case : round (33 mm diameter)
    For leather straps of 17 mm lug-size
    International Collection : 1943-1958
    Swiss retail price (1946) : CHF 199.-
    Also available with 14K gold bezel on stainless steel (CO 2364, CHF 246.-), 14K solid gold (OJ 2364, CHF 451.-) or 18K solid gold (OT 2356, CHF 522.-).
    AM

    There is also a Ref. 2366, which has the same picture, so it is not clear what the differences are.

    So it is quite possible that the original poster's watch is original.  One would need to see the original caseback to be sure.

    I have no doubt that  Bill's example is original as well.

    The internet really is a wonderful thing.  Thank you Omega.

    gatorcpa

     

    This message has been edited by gatorcpa on 2008-07-19 10:29:46

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    Omega 30T2Rg - Let's see them.....

     
    By: Darren : July 17th, 2008-11:13
    Omega's never done better IMHO (okay, maybe the Speedmaster 2998 and a few others....) I had Jack create a clear caseback for this one so that I could enjoy the movement (preserving the original of course). I'd love to see others - newer dials, older dial...  

    Ok ... Here are two of mine...

     
    By: Bill Sohne : July 17th, 2008-21:28
    Hi .... Its about time people wanted to see some 30T2Rgs...... The one on the left is a 35.5 18k yellow gold snapback and the one of the right is a 35 mm screwback in steel with 14k Pink gold bezel ( never came across another ..)/ Good Hunting Bill Sohne...  

    Sorry to say...

     
    By: mac_omega : July 19th, 2008-08:20
    Hi Darren, I have hesitated for a long time if I should post a response or not - finally I decided to do so.. I do not want to spoil your weekend or to take away your pride on your watch, but - sorry - I have to say  it is a so called  "marriage" of a cor...  

    I have to respectfully disagree...

     
    By: gatorcpa : July 19th, 2008-10:15
    ... a quick look at the Omega Vintage Database for Ref. 2364 has the following information: - Other - Gents' leather strap Reference CK 2364 International collection 1943 Movement Type: Manual winding (chronometer) Caliber number: 30 T2 RG Created in 1943...  

    I'm with Mac......

     
    By: smorrisonmd : July 19th, 2008-11:59
    and while I realize caseback shown is not the original, it is a screw-back. The chronometre case should have a snap back.

    These are the references...

     
    By: mac_omega : July 20th, 2008-02:29
    It is quite simple with the chronometer references: 1) Firstly press in back: 2364     small (33 mm) with sub second  (cal. 30 T2 Rg) 2366     large (35,5 mm) with sub second  (cal. 30 T2 Rg) 2365     small (33 mm) with center sweep second  (cal. 30 T2 Rg... 

    omega 30t2rg-sc

     
    By: melocarp1 : August 20th, 2010-16:27
    can someone expound on the gold case numbers ,for these wonderful movements,and also what about original balances, which, also seems to be some what of a rareity..how often does one find rg's with original balances.. Thank you very much.. Mel..

    The balances...

     
    By: mac_omega : August 21st, 2010-00:04
    Hi, The balances are cut bimetallic balances with screws and Breguet hairspring  as they are found in early Cal. 30, 30 T1,  30T2, 30 SC T1 and 30 SC T2 movement - it is nothing special and they are interchangeable... however in the chronometers they have... 

    actually that is not totally true...

     
    By: Bill Sohne : August 21st, 2010-05:22
    Hi Erich The balance complete for a 30T2Rg or 30T2SCRg is different. The balance staff is of a higher finish and quality. I would have to assume the balance itself might also be made to a higher standard, but I dont have access to my notes. The standard 3... 

    That´s interesting...

     
    By: mac_omega : August 21st, 2010-09:18
    Hi Bill, that´s interesting - I have learned something new... I thought only the pallet fork, and the "visible" steel parts as regulating device, crown- and ratchet  wheel as well as the brass minute wheel (AFAIK) are differently finished. Did n... 

    You can infer the case ref. number

     
    By: MSNWatch : August 21st, 2010-16:42
    by the size of the case and whether it is a subseconds or center seconds Rg movement. Take a look at Erich's (mac_omega) very informative post in this thread regarding case reference numbers - chances are it will be one of these four - 2364, 2365, 2366 an... 

    30t2rg-sc gold cases

     
    By: melocarp1 : August 21st, 2010-15:03
    Mac, this is the first time that i posted, however, i read this forum all the time.. please can you give me more information, on gold cased rg's my RG, has a case number # 10761062 but i have not been able to find any reference information. Please help wi... 

    Please tell...

     
    By: mac_omega : August 22nd, 2010-00:14
    Hi Mel, please give me some more info: 1) diameter of case without winding crown - either 33mm or 35,5mm 2) does the watch have a sub second dial (second above "6" position) or center sweep second hand? Then I will be able to tell you the reference number... 

    Sorry - but you are wrong!

     
    By: mac_omega : July 20th, 2008-02:41
    Hi gatorcpa, sorry to say but you are wrong! I initially wanted to post my response directly below your´s but  it was posted a bit lower in the thread. There you can read about the different chronometer references and especially about the SS crew back cas... 

    Haha ! Good to talk of Omega chronmoeters ... here are some of mine

     
    By: Franco : July 23rd, 2008-09:52
    Hi Guys after some emails with Bill about eight years ago ... I couldn't stop. Here are some of my babies, all of them are at least 35.5mm diameter. Best wishes Franco PS: All certified at Omega. N.13 is a very rare snapback in 18KPG, 9 is a rare case for...  

    Wow, impressive collection, Franco!

     
    By: amanico : July 23rd, 2008-11:36
    I'm so happy to have found a crazier person than me! LOLOL I'm speechless, in front of your collection... That's what I call a very nice, a splendid Thematic Collection! Congrats, and thanks for sharing this oment of pure madness! Nicolas