As for me, after NOT having bought 3 or 4 watches I liked, I bought a PAM36. After another 3 or 4, I bought the Logo, after another 3 or 4, I bought the PAM009 Pre-V. I also bought some "nowhere" models I really...REALLY....R E A L L Y liked. They are languishing in my drawer and long after NOT liking them...that much...anymore, I can't give them away FOR FREE, because I was the ONLY one to like them. Ciao - Sergio