Officine Panerai - With the same respect....

With the same respect....

Diver's watches exsisted already...before...Panerai/Rolex. All Panerai did was to find a..better..solution for the water resistence (the first diving watches flooded..abitually) and render them readible in the dark (which Panerai resolved by useing Radiomir, that was already in use on other products Panerai supplied to the Royal Italian Navy). What the modern management has done, is to dilute the military content..some...by producing models that had very little to do with diving and military (too many to mention). The 339 it's an interesting case. It is...rumored...that Richemont did NOT have the right to issued a Marina Militare model, since the official supplier was, a the time, Lockman. Little "milking" there Pictures of the Gamma Groups are consistentily utilised in advertising watches that have NOTHING to do with the legendary diving models of times gone bye Having said that, I continue to be a die-hard Paneraista that believes some of the watches produced by the..maison..are well worth the admiration Ciao This message has been edited by sergio4 on 2016-05-11 11:19:39

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Panerai PAM 600: A question.

By: amanico : May 10th, 2016-14:27

Look at this: Tourbillon, GMT, and minute repeater carillon which can chime on the two times, the home time and a second time zone. Technically awesome, but is it really à propos to have such an offer in such a case whose roots are military, and whose dim...

Such a number of sophisticate complications

By: dr.kol : May 10th, 2016-14:33

would definitely require a stylish case. And 49 mm is huge - even for Arnold S. whose family name nobody can write. Best, Kari

I actually think..

By: sergio : May 10th, 2016-16:53

that Panerai it's..flexing its muscles..technologically. Much as the automotive manufacturers create..concept cars...and shows them off at exhibitions. I also think that Panerai's managements has a "bar to be raised" policy all charted out. Following your...

Agree, Sergio. We don't know where the brand will simply be in 50 years. Why not some haute horlogerie for them, but in a miltary case???

By: amanico : May 10th, 2016-21:55

Not sure this daring concept will work, even in 50 years. Best, Nicolas

I think the powers that be, in Panerai....

By: sergio : May 11th, 2016-09:12

want to..milk..the military image, when it suits them, not as a consequence of the..expectations..of the followers. The new pressure-back (instead of the traditional..screwed in one) limiting the water-resistence to 10atm in a Military Diver's watch, has ...

Respectfully,

By: Chuck A : May 11th, 2016-10:08

I don't believe Panerai needs to "milk" the military image, as they, together with Rolex developed their 3646 tool watch in the 1930's, long before other watch houses. And, although the size eliminates most of the market, not anymore so than the prices of...

The vintage military Roelx / Panerais are legends. Not so sure there is some consistence to use them for prestigious complications, though. [nt]

By: amanico : May 11th, 2016-10:58

With the same respect....

By: sergio : May 11th, 2016-11:17

I confirm for the 339. That's why the 339 for the italian market didn't have the MM name

By: amanico : May 11th, 2016-11:43

On the dial...

You didn't say diving watches Sergio

By: Chuck A : May 11th, 2016-13:36

You weren't taking about diving watches Sergio, you specifically suggested Panerai "milks" the military image. The war watch is, after-all the genre they started / perfected at the time, no? I couldn't wear this watch due to my skinny wrist, and I can't a...

The first Panerais...

By: sergio : May 11th, 2016-13:46

where manufactured for the Gamma Groups of the X MAS (which where the special forces, something like the US Seals). Every Panerai is, intrinsically, a..military DIVING watch..

Agree with that, Sergio. [nt]

By: amanico : May 11th, 2016-10:59

I'd love to see a new classic round 44mm Panerai case

By: AnthonyTsai : May 10th, 2016-17:24

Who knows if we'll ever see this. Now for a classic dial for a Panerai repeater watch. Shrug. Both the ideas above are new concepts for Panerai, so only time will tell if either come to fruition. Cheers, Anthony

Yes, Anthony. Let's see. [nt]

By: amanico : May 10th, 2016-21:53

This new case, has been on your wish-list, for longer than I have..frequented..the forum (and that's a long time). One day maybe??..hahaha [nt]

By: sergio : May 13th, 2016-03:40

Heheh yup. I don't know how long I have to wait...

By: AnthonyTsai : May 13th, 2016-07:53

And then the question is ... if they do release a new case, is the case design a winner? Cheers, Anthony

That's the main question, indeed. [nt]

By: amanico : May 13th, 2016-23:06

I wonder ...

By: P@trick@Belgium : May 11th, 2016-00:50

if OP realy wants to sell this watch ? I mean I have the feeling it's more sort of a exhibtion example of what they are able to, or more specific what Valfleurier is able to and for that matter it's much to big with 49mm to begin with, 42-44mm would be a ...

Big challenges are the most interesting ones...

By: amanico : May 11th, 2016-11:03

Now, that needs some consistence... Best, Nicolas

I really don't know what OP is doing with their brand

By: Watches4ever : May 11th, 2016-06:10

OP to many has the bridge, these Radiomir and 1940 cases doesn't do anything for me. For this piece as reported for $400,000, I would expect to see a date and power reserve. For this amount, I could think of a few more complicated pieces which has a bette...

For 400, 000 Euros...

By: amanico : May 11th, 2016-11:00

I go for a whole collection of JLC Duometres, ( hybris Mechanica à grande sonnerie apart. )