Years ago, my friend, a Patek AD, would require you buy a 2nd watch if he deigned to sell you a 5970 or something of that level. Now he discounts 5270's. But my point is, eventually they all come down to earth. I find this sort of practice repellant and in very bad spirit. But the gent is still my friend...I guess what I mean to say is, they do it while they can.