Jester
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I like this comparison...
As I think they both have very similar merits... Without taking into consideration what your brother currently has among his collection, IMHO this really comes down to function vs preference on styling.
Similarities:
Both of them feature the in house developed movement w/ long power reserve
Both of them are the iconic design of the brand with a strong lineage to historical model
Both of them feature a date window (ok ok, just want to be thorough)
Differences:
Manual wound on PAM233 vs. Automatic winding on IW5004
Additional GMT function on PAM233
Easily changeable strap on PAM233 vs. deployant buckle that comes w/ IW5004
Have I missed anything?
This message has been edited by Jester on 2015-06-22 18:32:30
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PAM 00233(L/M) or IWC Big Pilot IW500401
Hi all, I am a big fan of Panerai also own Pam 00090 and waiting for Pam 00321. My older brother looking for large case from 44mm-46mm. He really likes PAM 00233 AND IW500401 Big Pilot. Yours comparacy opinions will be very helpful. Thank you. Ed Gun
I like this comparison...
As I think they both have very similar merits... Without taking into consideration what your brother currently has among his collection, IMHO this really comes down to function vs preference on styling. Similarities: Both of them feature the in house deve...
You forgot one of the most underappreciated complications - seconds reset
that the PAM233 P.2002 movement has. If I remember correctly, IWC's movement doesn't have seconds reset. Pull the crown out, and the seconds hand automatically resets to 0. This makes for easy accurate setting of the time IMO. Cheers, Anthony This message...
Thank you...
I knew I must have left something out... While we're at this level of technical granularity, I also forgot to add that the 5004 would have the typical quick set date while on the PAM233 you would have to run the hour hand in order to adjust for the date. ...
Love that Strap on
Saint Exupery.! could you please tell me what it is ??! thank you in advance Tony
a Message to: chgo
hi Christian i got your e-mail regarding the Strap on Saint Exupery. firstly, because how this Site is set up ?!! unfortunately i can't e-mail you back. !! (wish you had left me your e-mail address) and i can not find you on this Forum either.! 2nd this i...
Not much to add to what Jester wrote...
but I must say 233 wears smaller and its a bit more comfortable, smaller wrist can get away with wearing it. Both are absolutely great watches, tough decision not to get both If I had to choose I would pick...233.....no.....BP...ahh.....I'm no help. I lik...
one more detail Panerai changed on this model
both great watches. If you decid for the PAM 233 look at the great Photos (!) from the members that answerd to your question. At nine o clock there is a little window, that changes from white to black. That corospondent with the "hometime-hand" (the one b...
Thanks to all
Thanks to all opinions and parallels of this both beautiful watches. I strongly agree with Stephan from Germany that dial with AM-PM of series I, J, and K looks much superior to my opinion. Like I post originally it’s my brother who looking to buy. What’s...
AM / PM
but this on your picture is L-Serie. Look at the photos from the other members bevor. They shows the I or j or k version. Another interesting thing: The PAM 233 "8 days GMT" runs 10 days! Not 8 as it was often tod in magazins. There is no limitation in th...
I like both watches...
But if I were to have only one watch, 233 is my choice.. It is smaller so it's more wearable for all kind of occasion.. I believe it's more comfortable on the wrist.. It has a gmt function, so it's a perfect companion when traveling. But like aboen said, ...
IWC BP my choice
If you already have a Pam, go fr the BP. IMHO, you can get the panarei DNA, even in their most basic watches. But the BP would be a different proposition, something that harks back to the glory days of piloting. And the power reserve, very useful, u can w...
Tough call. I have both and ...
I don't know what I would do if I had to choose. Depending on what other watches he has or for what he plans to use it. 233 is more wearable for everyday use but BP5004 is an modern icon. But for me 233 is maybe the most beautiful in today's Panerai line ...
“Rabat”
He is actually right now in Barcelona, Spain and visited store “Rabat” they have in stock Pam 00233 for € 8,400.00 and BP500401 for € 11,000.00 (maybe he is not 100% correct) Cannot understand why price on BP so Hi. Here in New York MSRP on BP is $ 13,500...
STRANGE....
I know VERY well the people of RABAT. Is where Im buying all my watches. Tell your brother to ask there for JEAN PHILIPPE, or JORDI RABAT. They are really cool guys. RABAT is also one of the best places to get a great service and impressive prices. Diffic...
Forgot to mentioned....
There is a really huge difference in price for the IWC! The price you say its like 2K EUR LESS! Are you sure??? There could be some difference as per the exchanges rates, but that seems to me to be pretty high!
both are great
these 2 Watches are Loved by most People. i like the 233 very much but if i had the Dough i'd LOVE to buy the 289. but don't forget that the BP is still an ICONIC Watch.!! Cheers Tony...
Though choice
Between the two watches, the BP will wear very big compared to the 233. 233 will be easier to wear everyday and the GMT function will be a plus if your brother plans to travel to different timezones. Dome crystal and the 1950 case on the 233 makes this a ...
The strap...
The wide thick strap on the Panerai simply makes it a more comfortable watch to wear. Whereas the IWC Big Pilot has a skinny strap that provides overall less stability. Plus, the 2002 caliber in the 233 is a prime example of excellent movement finishing i...