Montblanc

Dial side: With some common elements of style. The Patek has its two sub dials located under the 3 and 9 o clock line, while the Montblanc is well centered. Some will like, others won't. Movements: Cal CH 29-525 for the Patek, Cal 16.29 for the Montblanc ...  

i admire patek a lot, but same with Minerva.. great comparison.... Where are the prices on the two?

That what you paid for your prototype from JLC?

I thought it was just a cosmetic choice, but then I heard TS say in an interview that it’s for ‘technical’ ressons, without elaborating further. Would be interested if someone knows the answer😀

of the 5204 and also 5370, which need more space for theire inherent, additional complications. Therefore the subdials are not in line with the crown.

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add other calendar complications to it. This would ask die more space and a different movement layout, I suppose. Patek had the advantage to plan this in theire development phase of theire new chrono movement. Interesting post!

An 1858 chrono with a calendar, let it be a simple full and not a perpetual, would suit this watch a lot. Room in the dial is also plenty.

MB"s movement is older, more traditional and made out of German Silver or at least to some part. Patek's is a new movement is obviously new, less finished but technically state of the art. However, regarding robustness and longevity I feel MB will do bett... 

Thank you for the comparison. M4

All the points in the thread are pertinent for the purpose of the persons point of view except the movement in the Montblanc being better, it being SS and so on. The size of the MB is not an issue for many, I have a 6.75 inch wrist and the 1858 fits me we...  

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No matter what the similarities... or even if Patek (copied) this watch and IWC and whatever else... Patek gets a billion times more credit, deserved, undeserved... merely for being Patek... and yes, I'd say (mostly as usual) Patek is very, very, very, ve... 

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