very nice comparo of two rarities, thanks again blomann [nt]

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Vintage Ads: The Series – Part #9 Deep Sea Alarm

 By: blomman Mr Blue : September 4th, 2011-12:38
Hello Vintage Jaeger-LeCoultre Lovers, I would like start with dedicating this part to my dear friend Rafal for making this possible! Rafal, I am deeply grateful! Lately there have been a lot of posts about the TT DSA here. IMO, the strongest watch from J...  

These are 2 rare documents, for sure. But there is more.

 By: amanico : September 4th, 2011-13:03
1/ A notice, coming with the DSA US, where you learn that the DSA is WR to 500 Feet ( + 150 meters ) ( Thanks to Karmin! ) 2/ An american ad: ( Credit pic: Clavi ) : At least as it seems that there is something else, but not communicable for the moment. E...  

2 great posts...

 By: BDLJ : September 4th, 2011-22:26
...from Blomman and Nicolas. Thanks, guys. These are great references. As for the 500' v 600' v 200m, I wouldn't hold too much store in the technical details of these documents, who knows how they were tested and these documents were likely to have been w... 

There were some very approximative things, at this moment.

 By: amanico : September 4th, 2011-22:33
From the catalog and the AD, by the way... Even if it is writtten in the ad or in the catalog that the bezel is not turning, it was easy for the AD to check that point. But, hey, this is also the charm of these vintage documents, AND this kind of approxim... 

That's exactly it...

 By: BDLJ : September 4th, 2011-22:44
...that's what makes these documents so enjoyable. If everything from history was absolutely precise, we'd lose the fun of piecing it together.

Thank you!

 By: blomman Mr Blue : September 5th, 2011-12:40
Yes, you are probably right… But I can’t help thinking if maybe something there..? Some differences between the two versions..? Best Blomman

Great collection of rare docs. Another one

 By: Clavi : September 5th, 2011-00:51
Here is the full size version of the above picture. To my knowledge, this is probably the only time the DSA was shown / advertised in a broad audience newspaper, the New York Times (all the rare documents you have shown come from brochures which were aime...  

Some additional material

 By: Clavi : September 5th, 2011-02:37
Interesting details on original package, as well as small hands and round font bezel version, obviously a true rare find: (not mine unfortunately and can't remember who to credit it for, this is a very old file from my archive, from many years ago)...  

The manual!

 By: blomman Mr Blue : September 5th, 2011-12:53
Thank you for these, Clavi! Q? The image of the DSA (in red) is it showing the JLC version in the LC manual? I can’t see the Deep Sea Alarm the on the alarm disk… Best Blomman

Retail price of LC DSA ?

 By: karmin : September 6th, 2011-06:23
This thread loooks like a real tresor hunt ! Thx Blomman for all this material, very useful indeed. Checking the pics posted by both of you, Blomman and Clavi, I have to admit a slight confusion in my mind regarding retail price of the LC DSA : your docs ...  

Well, a thing often happened, at this time ...

 By: amanico : September 6th, 2011-07:10
You often had a big gap between the year of fabrication and the year of the sale. I saw several Rolex which had a 5 years gap between these 2 moments. As for the discount, I'm too young to tell you if it is a modern thing or something which was usual at t... 

It was a bargain, in any case

 By: nilomis : September 6th, 2011-07:48
Considering that, based on the historical devaluation of the US$, the factor to convert US$ 135 (1966) to current value is 6.705, the price should be US$ 905,18!! We need, urgently, a time machine. We can return to 1966 and acquire two or more!! Cheers

Good question, Karmin!

 By: blomman Mr Blue : September 7th, 2011-13:02
You raise a good question! Was the DSA not that popular and that’s why not so many was made?! In the end they were sold out at half price..?! Thank you for joining with your beautiful whole set! And for your kind words! Feel free to post more pics o... 

Great ad, Clavi!

 By: blomman Mr Blue : September 5th, 2011-12:48
I have like 6-7 different Atmos + multi watch ads… But no one with the DSA. Great find, my friend! Thank you for your kind words and scans! Best Blomman

Another riddle.. For the mythical ladies ..

 By: hs111 : September 5th, 2011-01:19
Thx for this again so interesting complementing information, - seems, as so many times, not all what is written.. Is iron-clad 'truth', but serves a purpose, and helps to trace back, likely .. Fascinating always ! Further to that, a little double Q, as pe... 

It seems that the only original hands are those skeleton pointed ones.

 By: amanico : September 5th, 2011-01:31
Exactly like those which are on the TT DSA. I wrote " it seems " because we don't have a lot of material ( press files, ads, catalogs, and so on ) to affirm that the pointed skeleton were the only ones. BUT, from these docs, plus another one I saw, there ... 

on hands

 By: Clavi : September 5th, 2011-01:31
The hands of the actual watch which is placed above the DSA advert (your point 1) were replacement / incorrect The hands on Blomman's pics of the JLC-DSA EU (your point 2) are much more likely to be correct, although this combination, as is evidenced in t... 

Enlightment appreciated !.. Thx for the kind comments :))

 By: hs111 : September 5th, 2011-01:37
Some remaining 'mystique' I guess, also contributes to the magic, Well said, Clavi and interesting reply - kind 'merci' ! Best, hs

Nicolas and Clavi already answered about the hands…

 By: blomman Mr Blue : September 7th, 2011-13:11
You know me, my friend – I am always curious and want to learn more! So always some questions included… Thank you kindly, KoC! I am sure you will enjoy your TT double even more the more of their background and history we discover here! Soon I hope to make... 

Sure you will.. And indeed, pleasure this will be .. :))

 By: hs111 : September 7th, 2011-13:53
.. You pick it up in person ? --shall I send my little Volvo truck?? Very happy for you, already now, my friend ! Best, hs

He, he…

 By: blomman Mr Blue : September 7th, 2011-14:08
My collection wouldn’t fill a soda can… So no truck needed! Thank you for the offer, my friend But with some luck I will have it soon! Best Blomman

33 cl ! ;) [nt]

 By: blomman Mr Blue : September 7th, 2011-14:19
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Come on, you're too modest! ;) [nt]

 By: amanico : September 7th, 2011-14:20
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OK- 50 cl... ;) [nt]

 By: blomman Mr Blue : September 7th, 2011-14:21
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50 liters, you meant, you damn Gargantua! :))) [nt]

 By: amanico : September 7th, 2011-14:23
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 By: blomman Mr Blue : September 7th, 2011-14:28
In that case – if I am the one left and you are the one to the right! Best Blomman...  

There are these beautiful little ones.. called Matchbox..

 By: hs111 : September 7th, 2011-14:46
I think to have seen a super-cool .. JLC one, if I remember correctly. As per your collection, from only what I know.. Awesome.. Best, my friend, hs

Cool documents.

 By: VMM : September 5th, 2011-10:31
I love the first one, it's typewritten; fantastic!! Yes, thanks to Karmin. Thanks, Nico. Vte

How could I miss these documents?!

 By: blomman Mr Blue : September 5th, 2011-12:36
Thank you very much for these out and to Karim and Clavi for posting the docs! Very honoured for you kind words and the reference post honour, my friend! Best Blomman

Now we are entering the "Pièce de résistance" part

 By: nilomis : September 4th, 2011-14:15
Blomman No words but one. Congratulations!! Cheers

I am closing in…

 By: blomman Mr Blue : September 5th, 2011-13:15
Soon it has to be the Memovox turn..?! Eh..? All I can say Nilo – is thank you, my friend! Best Blomman

I'm ready

 By: nilomis : September 5th, 2011-14:36
When you release the Memo section I will be ready with a good stash of strong tranquilizers. Or, better, I can say that I'm on the dress watch phase, as a lame excuse. Cheers

You will need at least two tranquilizers’…

 By: blomman Mr Blue : September 7th, 2011-13:20
As I realized that I will have to divide the Memo into at least two different parts… Be patient, my friend! Best Blomman


 By: craniotes : September 4th, 2011-18:25
Nico, thank you so much for taking us on this trip down memory lane. What's more, your vintage DSA twins are simply divine! Regards, Adam

Hi Adam!

 By: blomman Mr Blue : September 5th, 2011-13:31
Thank you for your kind words! Taking me for Nicolas feels like the greatest compliment! Best Blomman

My pleasure, Ed! :) [nt]

 By: blomman Mr Blue : September 7th, 2011-13:22
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A ver y informative post.

 By: grigo : September 4th, 2011-23:02
As usuel of course. Best regards, George

Will try my best…

 By: blomman Mr Blue : September 7th, 2011-13:26
To keep the level of info in this series! That is one of the reasons why it takes time for each part to appear here… Thank you very much, George! Best Blomman

This one....

 By: DRMW : September 4th, 2011-23:26
I'm sure this one was a post that many were waiting for! Once again, well done and thanks to your friend Rafal. -MW

I thought it would be…

 By: blomman Mr Blue : September 7th, 2011-13:29
Good timing now when all the TT DSA’s are surfing here..! Thank you for your always so kind words, MW! Best Blomman

yes, perfect timing! :) [nt]

 By: DRMW : September 7th, 2011-15:07
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Wello done, thanks for the share ! [nt]

 By: foullis : September 5th, 2011-00:23
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Thank you kindly! :) [nt]

 By: blomman Mr Blue : September 7th, 2011-13:36
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Very nice number 9.. Pleasure read.. Still some puzzle-pieces

 By: hs111 : September 5th, 2011-01:33
Thank you for this great addition to your Vintage ad-series, again a very interesting one . - as always, enjoyed to read it ! So all there remains maybe is a late summer greeting from the present - into the past, with this really quick morning shot of my ...  

Aye, aye Sir.. Mon capitaine.. Will do so, asap..

 By: hs111 : September 5th, 2011-01:49
..knew that would be coming, was not really happy with the res, myself.. ;-) But was actually a bit happy, that for the moment my new chain of upload from iPhone > Imageshack > Forum ( in fact using the direct link feature even from the mobile device) wor... 

You can select from i shack, the size of your pic. Once you did it, it is

 By: amanico : September 5th, 2011-01:54
always ok, and you won't have to do it again. All these small things take time, my friend. I still remember the first time I wanted to post a pic... It took me ( and Asi ) a whole day through Skype to get it. Best, Nicolas.

Ok, thx.. Tried this first .. Pls notice

 By: hs111 : September 5th, 2011-02:06
Thanks for advice.. Will follow, Padawan's delight ! Also , it appears that the first iphone pic was by far not optimal in obtained focus, more focused on the flower, BTW - Have done better ones, as well, was just on-the-go.. Can just select 800 x600 or 1...  

1024 x 768 is the good size. Your pic is good, but way too large.

 By: amanico : September 5th, 2011-02:15
Wait, I install my home theater system, it will work. Best, Nicolas.

LOL.. Apologies.. I'll surrender :-/

 By: hs111 : September 5th, 2011-02:57
It's strange: I can't identify an option to scale it down sizewise, without downgrading the resolution, actually don't know how to influence size.. - and I guess once the pic is uploaded from the initial source ( iphone in that case), it somehow takes the... 

+1 on Surrender .. Played around for an hour.. ..

 By: hs111 : September 5th, 2011-04:34
have to give up, can't re-scale it's size, tried others - still big.. :-( - have no ( zero !) idea if the iShack menu - choices on " resize image" refer to the dimensions ( pixel numbers) for HOSTING the pic or for the case, if one is uploading the pic; F... 

Thank you again, KoC! :)

 By: blomman Mr Blue : September 7th, 2011-13:40
Love your flower pics! Best Blomman

Great post again

 By: terenceho : September 5th, 2011-07:59
Learnt a lot from this post again to understand the origin of DSA from 60s. Thanks again.

Hi Terenceho!

 By: blomman Mr Blue : September 7th, 2011-14:24
Thank you for your kind input! Please feel free to join with your stunning DSA US! Best Blomman

I think that V&C and LeCoultre...

 By: gatorcpa : September 5th, 2011-09:21
... were still afflilated at the time that the DSA was imported. It's just that V&C was marketed in this country as a maker of dress watches only. Therefore, I'm not surprised that they aren't included in the specialty catalog. As far as the advertisement...  

Thank you very much for the info, Gatorcpa!

 By: blomman Mr Blue : September 7th, 2011-14:32
Very helpful! Interesting inscription on the Mystery – never saw the copyright sign on the back before! Best Blomman

Another great post.

 By: VMM : September 5th, 2011-10:35
Thanks for sharing. Vte

The pleasure is all mine, Vte! :)

 By: blomman Mr Blue : September 8th, 2011-13:00
Thank you for looking! Best Blomman

Great post and the articles are fascinating. This

 By: timerider : September 5th, 2011-10:56
is a great series and always a must read and enjoy! Many thanks, Tim

Thank you for your kind words, Tim! :)

 By: blomman Mr Blue : September 8th, 2011-13:06
I will try to keep the posts in this series interesting! Best Blomman

You did it again, my friend ! .. So nice read.. Some riddles again, Enjoyable !

 By: hs111 : September 5th, 2011-13:22
A very interesting read and sequence of very educative documents.. Makes one think.. - but makes one reflect about fom where we came, to where we are.. Very nice time travel again ! Your posts are always real highlights and your series are keepers for me ... 

Re: Keepers…

 By: blomman Mr Blue : September 8th, 2011-13:20
Hey KoC! All these watches and documents always make you wonder… Sometimes you find “the answer” sometimes you don’t. But what’s interesting is to go back and read and re-think again after some time… What you thought was the right answer might be just ano... 

Thx, my philosopher.. Very well said .. Always a real pleasure !

 By: hs111 : September 8th, 2011-14:53
.. Lightning fast.. Well, the important thing is .. Enlightment, passion - but then patience ( not my biggest virtue), But I did learn, willlusten further and also enjoy, Also your great and significant posts, - I happily maintain with tipping my cap - th... 

Patience is a virtue…

 By: blomman Mr Blue : September 9th, 2011-13:54
That I am no good at (either)… But the only way of success when it comes to collecting vintage watches! Patience and time… Still many old documents and ads to go thru – think and re-think their meaning and content. Like this old document from 1938. Damn, ...  

Another in your repertoire of remarkable docs.. :))

 By: hs111 : September 9th, 2011-14:02
.. You are becoming one King of Docs ! How is that- KoC & KoD ? .. Best, hs PS: - yes, I very much hope to see you (PM to follow)

Great post Blomman with a rich history.

 By: emcquillan : September 5th, 2011-16:52
I love the pics of your original deep seas as well. Thank you for sharing. Best,

The vintage duo…

 By: blomman Mr Blue : September 8th, 2011-13:24
The “problem” with these vintage DSA’s is that the love for them grows Deeper for each day! Not fair to my other watches… Thank you, Emc! Best Blomman

Another winner Blomman

 By: Hororgasm : September 6th, 2011-14:29
Very educational, especially for DSA fans like me. Thanks for making the effort Best, Horo

No effort…

 By: blomman Mr Blue : September 8th, 2011-13:26
When it comes to these watches! Only love! Thank you, Horo – always so kind! Best Blomman

very enjoyable! [nt]

 By: playtime : September 6th, 2011-19:11
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Thanks, J ! :) [nt]

 By: blomman Mr Blue : September 8th, 2011-13:27
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An epic series of posts Blomman

 By: Ubik : September 7th, 2011-09:18
Thanks for sharing and thanks to everyone who has added contributions. Wonderful.

I would like to concur with Ubik and…

 By: blomman Mr Blue : September 8th, 2011-13:31
Thank everybody for chipping in with info and shining a bit of light on this mythical watch! Thank you! And also thank you, Ubik for your very kind words! Best Blomman

sorry Blomman for my late responding...

 By: FanFrancisco : September 23rd, 2011-08:15
... have been busy and missed your post and should read it earlier. WOW, as usual, great post again. currently, this DSA series is being missed in my Memo collection... must somehow be to catch up this soon, hopefully! stefan

Never too late, Stefan!

 By: blomman Mr Blue : September 25th, 2011-12:55
Always room for one more! TT DSA or original DSA..?! Either way – you should! Thank you, my friend! Best Blomman

very nice comparo of two rarities, thanks again blomann [nt]

 By: georgeszaslavsky : November 27th, 2011-12:42
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Thank you, Georges! [nt]

 By: blomman Mr Blue : December 3rd, 2011-16:06
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