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Geophysic - which one?
Given that a fair portion of all exciting watches ends up in the ownership of members here and that I have seen Geophysics of all types here already I was wondering what the opinions on the modern versions are - specifically the Tribute to 1958 in SS and the True Second model (likewise in SS). 
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So, the proximity to the design code of the original (and no date) or the look forward and the tongue in cheek complication?
And in case you have both, how do they compare?
Looking forward to hearing your opinions!
Geophysic - which one?
Given that a fair portion of all exciting watches ends up in the ownership of members here and that I have seen Geophysics of all types here already I was wondering what the opinions on the modern versions are - specifically the Tribute to 1958 in SS and ...
Add the fact that they don't house the same movement.
The Cal 898 / A ( from memory ) for the TT Geophysic, the Cal 770 for the True Second. One finely tuned, the 898/A, the other with a dead second. One which is a Tribute, the other which is a fiction. One with a Date the other without. One which is below 4...
Ammateur of fine movements? :)
I like the UT very much but find it\'s a very different watch. When you say the 898A is very finely regulated - so more exact timekeeping then? And the anti-magnetic properties? Or not really? Thanks for your input, Nico - final question: if you had to ch...
I couldn't buy the regular regular true second because of the date.
I've come around to appreciate the true second movement, and I think it is a nice innovation by JLC; and the gold rotor is an excellent addition. Regarding the TT Geophysic, I needed it to have a bit more oomph (technical term!) from a movement perspectiv...
Thanks for your input!
Agree with you on the size and the charm of the original; still the TS is hardly massive in its own right - JLC judged it nicely IMHO. A hand wound movement would be interesting but not sure it would make sense commercially at that price level, since many...
Agreed regarding size
Both 38.5 and 39.5 mm are good sizes. Manual wind on the TT Geo would have been great and would easily have sold out. For a regular production run like the True Second, I understand the overall appeal of an automatic movement (but I won\'t be swayed over ...
The TS complication really holds a lot of appeal :)
I guess the UT has the complication without having the date A Purist was nice enough to let me handle his and it is really very, very appealing. I guess the last years have been great for world timers...
For me the TT Geophysic is a difficult matter…
Been spending a lot of time wrapping my head around this topic… On one hand, I love the idea. On the other hand, I am not thrilled by the execution. But as I have an intimate relationship with the original Geophysic, I am biased… Now, a couple of years af...
Thanks for your really thoroughly argued opinion, Blomman!
And I am already looking forward to reading your in depth take on the subject Would your opinion on the hands and dial of the TS change, if it was a Tribute to Geomatic? So a vote for platinum, then. Apart from the fact that they are almost impossible to ...
If Geomatic on the dial it would have been more coherent
Automatic, date, same dial layout, same hands. Best Blomman
I guess launching another line...
I.e. Tribute to Geomatic was probably too much for them? With you on the coherence, though.
Why a new line, could have been a one time deal.
They already have the Master line. But since they made the Geophysic True Second, that ship has sailed... Best Blomman
True that
Going back now is impossible. I guess they may have had a sufficient number of tributes in their view and wanted to make a new family instead...
Then they should have waited a year or two...
You never know when you will run out... Better to keep your bullets for the future! Just my 2 öre (Swedish cents). Best Blomman
Surely JLC still has some ammo for the future...
From their ample archives. But I hear you
Yes, but when it comes to Automatic Chronometer....
They only have one more card to play... Best Blomman
My experience with the Geophysic...
I got the SS version as soon was released and ... I had mixed feelings about it (no wrist presence was my main issue) and I let it go. Then the true seconds was released ... Same feeling as the SS version. No deal for me. At that time, I was fully against...
Yes ...
The Pt is a keeper. Few pictures of it, because it\'s a very hard piece to capture. Cheers, Nilo
This watch requires ...
A lot of patience and planing to capture in fullest. When you get the fine details from the dial, you also get reflexes from the polished bezel and lugs. The opposite is also true. No reflexes ... no detail from the dial. Cheers, Nilo
TT SS is wonderful. Certainly lacks the presence of the PL.
I have been walking by this one and am very close to pulling the trigger, except for the fact that I once owned it and let it go because the PL was just so much better. And yet I miss it everyday. The crosshairs make it such a unique piece, but it is on t...
So another vote for the Pt then? :)
Thanks for your experience Sentarex! Seven watches is a pretty strict target - respect What are the other 6, if you do not mind sharing?
six
JLC PT Geophysic JLC PT Polaris Omega Seamster 300M, new retro version (41mm) Weiss Watch On the list: JLC Deepsea Cermet JLC Deepsea Vintage (debatable since it looks a lot like the SM 300m) Blancpain Bathyscaphe (debatable) And I have to be honest I rea...
Thanks for your list :)
Had to look up the Weiss, since I have not come across it before. Which model do you have?
This watch is so special to me.
It is hard to describe why I like it so much. The weight is wonderful first off. The shine of the hour markers is just so perfectly subtle, like it is almost talking to you when asking for the time, calling like a shiny object at the bottom of the ocean f...
PT Yes all day everyday. An all-time great.
The platinum geophysic for me is a transformative experience each time I put it on. It gives me great confidence that I have control over fate, that I feel like El Capitan. Perhaps the strong evocation of feelings are what I look for in a watch. The Polar...
Now this is of course even better :)
Thanks for sharing why you went for each specific piece. Such reasoning processes help a lot in deciding where to look next!
Thanks for sharing your journey, Nilo!
Now that\'s the second vote for the platinum. Is it primarily the dial or the heft and feel of the material (and of course the more limited nature) that made the difference for you?
The dial and ...
The better balance on the wrist, caused by the extra weight. Cheers, Nilo
Both
The dial of the PT looks bigger since the second markers are not on the perimeter. And the heft is unmistakable. When I owned both, the SS felt weaker, but it is a different watch and perhaps shouldn\'t be compared this way. The SS is wonderful and any se...
Aesthetically I much prefer the Tribute to the True Second.
The shape of the hands on the True Second just don't do it for me.
Noted :)
Speaking of hands, where do you stand on the \'pre-patinated\' lume colour on the TT?
Not sure how I feel about it myself...
Actually prefer pieces to develop patina through time.
indeed, it adds a subtle color to it all.
I also replaced the stock bracelet with a navy one, same kind and everything (but from CF), changed the buckle for a folding one, and I think it really adds something to the watch. It\'s only afterwards that i noticed that the Pr version came with a navy ...
Could JLC extend the line this year.
Or is this as far as it will go variation wise? I do like the True Seconds but I am reluctant to go for it just yet as I think they may not be done experimenting with the Geophysic line yet and may have some interesting creations coming in the new year......
Not asking for embargo busting...
But what direction could you see new family members going in, Nico?
Yes. Which is not a scoop, since JLC announced the Geophysic would be a new family.
So, more members than just a TT, the TS and the UT...
I recall reading at the time of the True Seconds launch
That the Geophysic line would evolve, I was wondering ever since what would happen. A GMT, chronograph, etc., I was even hoping to see potential dial colour variations (albeit diverting quite a bit from the original inspiration) on the True Seconds, I thi...
a few months ago
as I was with my better half looking at the reverso (for her), we had a chit-chat with the JLC/Printemps booth representative, about geophysics, and he eventually told us about an upcoming geophysic watch, with a tourbillon. It sounded weird at that time,...
relief!
i still have the business card of that man, would want to make fun of him someday!
Easy one...
Both!!! Quick snapshots I took on my desk on Sep 30 last year when I picked up the new one. The TTG is an amazing, carefully adapted tribute watch (many thanks again Nicholas for your involvement and to push it through!) and the new True Beat is looking f...
The answer I always fear here :)
Namely both. I can definitely see your point and the two are indeed different and complementary. Which one gets more wrist time from you? Thanks for your input Ambos!
Was following the reasoning & discussion here.. Guess, there is something for everyone ( almost).. As a Humble Me, I had..
.. a pragmatic decison. When the TT Geophysics 1958 came, I chose the ss/ Crosshair one: clear lines, a nice contemporary size ( yes, my friend Blomman), and otherwise a rather cool 3-hand, and my crush on crosshairs - I don\'t mind the "faux patination" ...
Now that's a comprehensive answer :)
Thanks a lot for taking us through your reasoning - it is really helping to understand the pros and cons you considered. And your UT is simply great
Thx to you likewise for kind looking & & your interesting & stimulating little horological exercise.. :))
Hope you & yours are having also a great summer weekend ! Best, also for the incoming new week ! Cheers, hs
All day doctor's appointment to start the week tomorrow :)
Let\'s see if I am fit to continue or if I need some heavy maintenance
Nothing to add...
Only a lume shot of the TTG There\'s a lot of pro\'s and con\'s for \'fake patina\' but one can also just see it as another colour... And if I\'m not mistaken, today\'s super luminova doesn\'t really \'age\' anymore (the days of radioactive Tritium are go...
I think I must be a sucker for JLC tribute watches...
I acquired a TT 1931 Reverso in 2012. I think I would have bought the Geophysic 1958 in 2014 except that when it was announced I had just bought an AP 15202 which meant that a new watch was off limits for a year or two. By the time I had Mrs T's permissio...
Thanks a lot for sharing your journey / decision
I know it is too easy to do so, but if you will share your experiences with the watch at some point that would be excellent. So a(nother) vote for the SS TT after all!