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You point it right Mo

 

when talking about maturity. And I think it is a question of mind autonomy as well.

Concerning the LE caseback display, it's a really tough question to answer to.

Firts, I didn't see it in the metal yet, and I guess this must be something. As you say the contrast between gold and the black finish must be beautiful.

Nevertheless, my feeling is that this overall "Aiguille d'or" case back design (style, shape, balance) is quite different from other DB's open works: the DB28's face or a DB25's back especially. And thus, I would say it is not as appealing/interesting.

Maybe I should place myself as if I was on the verge to buy one, and only had to choose the case back I wanted (and if the rest of the watch was identical).

I think I would say that the brand has already chosen for me: what we like from Indies, and from this brand in particular, in the spirit and choices they make on their collections.

Thus, when they decide to choose plain caseback displays, it's a part of their langage and their will. Hence, a part of the watche's soul inherited from the designer.

They chose one way or another, and thus defined the meaning of the caseback type for each watch.

And I think I would go for a regular DB28, i.e. with a plain caseback.

But this is a very personnal feeling (that may change from one month to another) as it is purer but that I don't consider as more true to the spirit of the brand (just a little bit ^^).

Your question is a trap :p





Thanks for the kind words by the way Mo, especially from someone who share this passion for this brand.

Cheers,

Mark
This message has been edited by Boréale on 2012-10-15 16:45:04

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Baselworld 2012: De Bethune

 
By: small-luxury-world : October 12th, 2012-08:52
Founded in 2002, almost 10 patents, more than 10 calibres and quite a few more than 10 world’s premiere innovations. Conception, R&D, prototyping, manufacture, finishing, assembling and testing – everything is done in-house, today. They started with a...  

I can't get tired of reading about De Bethune,

 
By: Mark in Paris : October 12th, 2012-16:06
and this report is particularly appealing. Thanks to you both for sharing your point of views and your feelings about these watches. The DB28 ST (Second Tourbillon) is, for me, the one I would take from 2012 novelties (By the way, I thought that the DB25T... 

Mark, thanks for your perspectives and additions...

 
By: Ornatus-Mundi : October 13th, 2012-09:07
which seem to be nurtured by a deep knowledge of the brand. Could you expand a bit on why you are more d'accord with the small window on the DB27 but would have reservations to see such on a DB25 (assuming we are talking about the simple handwind model)? ... 

I would say ...

 
By: Mark in Paris : October 13th, 2012-13:53
it's a question of shape and theme. But this is only my own opinion and, hence, remains subjective of course. For me, the DB28 collection is more futuristic and also its case is quite round (quite distinguishing from the lugs). On the other hand, the DB25...  

Mark, you just opened a totally new dimension...

 
By: Ornatus-Mundi : October 13th, 2012-23:57
for me. Watch shapes/themes and their respective case backs & decoration themes - this triplicate is new territory for me (I mean the combination of all three). I will have to think about this a bit. BTW, also Daos made a comment in that direction in ... 

Mark,your analysis is just perfect..

 
By: moc : October 15th, 2012-04:28
I totally share your point of view. Not see through at any costs like it seems to be these days,and De Bethune being the fantastic brand they are they know that for sure,great sign of maturity if you ask me. So I fully agree on the DB28 caseback...but wha... 

You point it right Mo

 
By: Mark in Paris : October 15th, 2012-16:40
when talking about maturity. And I think it is a question of mind autonomy as well. Concerning the LE caseback display, it's a really tough question to answer to. Firts, I didn't see it in the metal yet, and I guess this must be something. As you say the ...  

Thank you!

 
By: sidneyc : October 14th, 2012-03:45
Wow, those eye candies - we will never have enough of those. Thanks Oliver and Magnus for bringing us this write-up. De Bethune is definitely the brand to look forward to in the next decade and more. Everything they have done so far is nothing short of st... 

"it look breathtaking and perfectly fitting on your wrist"

 
By: small-luxury-world : October 22nd, 2012-03:20
One of the reasons why it is soooooo dangerous to do reports like this :-) sidneyc, thanks! Oliver

Teutonic connection....

 
By: Ares501 - Mr Green : October 14th, 2012-08:23
has delivered it once more! Just perfect review. Awesome pictures lot of insight and honest opinion about my favorite Independent manufacture And the pieces .... the pieces...... ahhhh the pieces :) Thank you very much Best Damjan

Damjan ...

 
By: small-luxury-world : October 22nd, 2012-03:21
replies like yours, full of passion, are a good reason to spend lots of time on such reports. Thanks! Oliver

One of the reasons why...

 
By: dxboon : October 14th, 2012-17:33
...I will always love Independents more than the big boys. This is where my heart really lies -- with companies that are doing it there way, and producing with vision and originality. There are almost TOO many compelling De Bethune's to list! I particular... 

Dear Daos, I could imagine the Mayan ...

 
By: small-luxury-world : October 22nd, 2012-03:23
on your wrist very well. I like the idea of "art - to go" :-) Thanks! Oliver

Rock'nRoll or...modern classics?

 
By: moc : October 15th, 2012-04:14
Who knows now,only the future will thing is sure though ,De Bethune future will be bright and sunny let me tell you that. Ever since i layed my eyes on the DB 25 first version with blue dial and automatic movement,I soon realized (even if a few years bac... 

True commitment from the heart,

 
By: Mark in Paris : October 17th, 2012-12:50
It is so enjoyable to read this Mo: always a hard exercise to find the right words for this brand and, there, it is very nice to read what I could have wrote. Today, not many brands can bring me what I found in De Bethune. The 1st novelties I'm curious to... 

easy to arrange one..

 
By: moc : October 17th, 2012-13:11
it will change again your view on the brand...Lets get it organised,I am always happy to escort friends over there.... Mo Thank you Mark for the nice words

Lot´s of passion ...

 
By: small-luxury-world : October 22nd, 2012-03:27
my dear Mo, but I am not surprised. Factory visit, well this is something I would really like to do :-) Oliver

pifpaf, thanks for your kind reply.

 
By: small-luxury-world : October 22nd, 2012-03:29
It is not always easy to catch the details during a watch exhibition, but sometimes you get it done :-) Oliver

So much to discuss in your report...

 
By: Fricks : February 7th, 2013-15:54
... and if i agree on some things, i disagree with both of you on others. I am not an expert on the brand and haven't seen all the models in the metal. Both of you would go for the db25T as it would be the ONE that gathered all the good things the brand o...