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Yes they do, some more then others
Some adopt the Opel/Vauxhall/Holden model of using same chassis, engine, transmission, even body panels. Some are simply rebadging excercise. Some are modified to beyond recognition, some immediately recognizable once you pop the hood. And there are those who insist on developing something ground up.
The point more pertinent is like one of the points raised by Don, the price versus product equation.
Best,
Horo
Do most independants start from base calibers or not ?
Speake Marin Dufour Vianney Halter Calabrese Andersen Lang & Heyne Van Der Klaauw Gauthier Voutilainnen Sarpaneva .... I know for example some do use unitas, peseux and other movements ofcourse the end product is very different. Do I dare to ask ... i...
Let's keep the horse in the stable...
To my knowledge all but two from your list above have at times or in general used parts from existing movements. And for those two it is my lacking knowledge if that has ever been the case, not negative evidence. I do not think, however, that using an exi...
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This is the best explanation for how best to approach this issue that I can remember seeing. The Observatoire is what it is and is simply stunning. Not like other watches with the same starting materials. I have seen some 100% original creations that were...
Hi Don, pardon me to intrude but I think the answer....
misses the point of the question. Of course, it is irrelevant if one uses an existing ebauche or not, I don't think relevance was part of the question. Cheers. Francois
The position of one horse
The question is recurrent but (no offense) it is not that meaningful. Every independent uses more or less existing design or existing components or (horresco referrens) existing calibers. The point is : how do they work from this and what is their added v...
An Indies distinctive feature
Thank you for participation and sharing your approach Mr Halter. I can say that most of us who have acquired or is willing to buy a watch from an independant watchmaker has this "who is behind the watch" very strongly in mind, and that it's a main purchas...
thank you
Thank you very much for your answer ! Ofcourse I would never say you, or others play in the same league as patek. I know this is a different world. Untill today I still prefer the bigger brands BUT that is changing. I want to know more about your work ( a...
Great speech
It is such a pleasure to learn from someone who is behind the watch. May I say the independent watchmaking is a way to express the idea and understanding of watchmaking via the products(which is the watch and its accessories) and reflects the emotion of t...
"When you watch the time, have a thought for the person who made the watch"...
That's brilliant. And its what ownership of an independent watchmaker's watch is about. Regards, Richard.
Awesome reply!
Coming from Mr Vianney Halter, we see it from the point of view of the maker of such timepieces. Indeed, it is as much about the person behind the watch and the value added, rather than what the base movement is. In our world of industrial specialisation,...
Yes they do, some more then others
Some adopt the Opel/Vauxhall/Holden model of using same chassis, engine, transmission, even body panels. Some are simply rebadging excercise. Some are modified to beyond recognition, some immediately recognizable once you pop the hood. And there are those...
Most? Probably not, but some do, at times...
I know the case of Voutilainen best. It is well documented that some of his past watches were based on old, extraoridinary chronometers ebauches such as Peseux' cal 260 and Longines' cal 360. But, but his latest creations, the vingt-8 is a in house manufa...
Watchmaking is not producing watches that look like kites, vacuum cleaner or suppositories
Ha! Damn straight! Cut out the BS! :-)
I actually bought the HM4 because of the suppository look..give me a double!
But not for constipation. Not kidding. I explain and talk suppository use 7 days a week. To get back at my work stress, I bought the HM4 because one reason was really the way watchmaking is not serious from certain perspectives. We have engineering of tra...
I am not surprised Bernard.
and thank god I have no use and can choose to not have any need or want for suppositories. In my old age if I do need help with bowel movement, I will no doubt think of the hm4, max and you :-)