Goldenlutin
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well my point is...
that it might be" funny" to have the balance wheel in the middle of the movement but the way it was done by BH just does not make sense because 3/4 of the movement are not used. It looks like if a small lady-size movement was put into a big movement. This makes no sense for me either aesthetically nor technically. I cannot remember any other movement which has so much empty space in it for nothing. If you look closely you will notice that all the gear train and the barrel are on the same little spot and that the rest is a "mechanical desert". I am not asking for a chronometer here but also not for "l'art pour l'art".
If you take the central tourbillon from Omega (in which BH was actually involved as he worked for Omega at this time if I remember right), the movement is more or less fully used. The same for BH H1 ( which is technically very close to the Omega...). Even the MB&F LM1 is not empty even if they had to use two fourth wheels for that. This was aesthetically quite clever (and technically the simplest way) as you do not notice straightaway that the balance wheel is missing (as it is located dial side).
Regarding the double barrel, this would have been easily possible if you connect the two in series by an addition gear. Obviously this would have been a bite more technicall demanding...
Talking about the barrel, I wonder how long the power reserve of the H11 might be. Not especially long I guess.
These are just my very personal thoughts.
Hope some others will also join the discussion.
BaselWorld: Beat Haldimann
BaselWorld 2013 : Beat Haldimann Beat Haldimann was again present this year at BaselWorld in the independents tent known as the "Palace". Beat was showing his iconic H1 and the new H11 watch. Going from the central tourbillon above the dial of the H1 to t...
My favourite watch of 2013
But I'm biased the independant I prefer. Thanks for the photos Don, it will remain a dream for me that's another amazing watch from Haldimann. cheers Francois
The movement of H11 makes no horological sense to me
There is something "wrong" for me about the H11. Why making a large movement with a tiny barrel and a relatively small balance wheel? When you look at the movement you just see empty space everywhere. All elements would fit in a much smaller movement. For...
You seems to know a lot... but I don't get your point
Why do you want an extra large balance wheel? and a huge barrel? Are your considerations technical or aesthetical? You may have noticed that the balance is central so that you can not have huge barrel in the opposite side of the balance wheel like in old ...
well my point is...
that it might be" funny" to have the balance wheel in the middle of the movement but the way it was done by BH just does not make sense because 3/4 of the movement are not used. It looks like if a small lady-size movement was put into a big movement. This...
Ok now I get it
I understand your critic, it still doesn't bother me, I like it for what it is and what Don explained in the presentation, its ultimate simplicity. Moreover the movement is more simple than a tourbillon, an automatic one, or the LM1. Again, I do understan...
If you don't like it, don't buy it or try to change it ;) .....
..... If you don't like the style of a watch or the technique in a watch, just don't try to change it and you don't have to buy it, because there are other brands. It's like with the cars, some like Audi, other VW or BMW. Some like Haldimann (as I do), ot...
It is neither about liking it or not.. nor personal taste
I see what you mean but it's not about liking it or not as one cannot, obviously, argue about individual tastes. As watchmaking is still (or only) micro-mechanics at the end, there are technical solutions that can be objectively qualified as being better ...
Nobody is supposed to applaud the 'heros' here...
but many people are just fans of certain brands... And remember, its always easier to criticise a comparatively anonymous large brand than an independent watchmaker. You have not choice than to criticise a real person with the latter. Back to the Beat Hal...
Totally agree Goldenlutin
I appreciate and respect your point,you might like it or not but at least you took the time to explain your view,which is what this site is all about. Mo
In total (!) agreement
Let's take this concept one step further: My proposal is to have all the time-reading information on the dial extremely small in the middle, say a millimeter or less. You could have a loupe-lens built into the sapphire, or swung through an internal bezel,...
I think that...
I think that it's Beat Haldimanns view of a watch "the reduction" and when this is his phylosophie of a watch, I don't think that its necessary to put in that watch case as much as possible. Every one got a different view of what a watch should look like ...
I really like the look and the technical innovation of this piece
Thanks for posting these pictures, Don. Mr. Haldimann has again produced an original piece. That is, except for the purposeful similarity of the dial and hands to the antique "Haldimann" pocket watch, and IMO nicely implemented. I really like the simplici...
