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Some comparison shots...

 

Daniel, here's a few 'quick and dirty' shots which might give you (and others) some sense of proportion for the Goldpfeil/Jutzi regulator moonphase, using a couple of reference pieces which may resonate for you.

You have mentioned your fondness for the Peter Speake-Marin 'Shimoda'. Here, then, is the Jutzi alongside the Shimoda:

 

 

The side-on shots are quite telling, aren't they? You mustn't underestimate the 'presence' [read: 'bulk'] of the Shimoda! Don't get the wrong impression: that is a large part of its appeal. In a similar vein, those lugs stretch out to the sides of the wrist. Quite a signature feature. The lugs on the Jutzi, by comparison, are shorter, lower but equally as 'square': they sit comfortably within the average wrist. Note how they carve a straight line through either side of the round case; a circle superimposed over a rectangle. Complementary tension. (This prose grows worthy of a J*D website!!).

Still, there's a PSM Picadilly Serpent on Collectors' Market at this very moment at a price that approximates the value of the pre-loved Jutzi. It's not the Shimoda, but it would be a tough call to pick between the two. However: Peter is a watchmaker and the Shimoda is one of his signature pieces - you will be able to obtain one for a while yet. Can the same be said of the watch which is a collaboration between a clockmaker and a (defunct???) luxury goods house?

For many, one of the definitive 'smaller' pieces which is highly wearable even in this larger watch climate is the original AL&S 1815. Remember that it is a very clean, open watch when considering the two alongside one another:

 

 

We  have a mutual affection for this next piece, and as it is at the upper end of most people's watch diameter/thickness tolerance it should assist to see it alongside the Jutzi:

 

 

Here together are the three more 'conventional' pieces:

 

 

And for the top to bottom perspective:

 

 

It all comes down to 'wearability', though. doesn't it? Well here they are on the same wrist - form your own view!

 

 

Hopefully this may assist (not complicate!) the decision-making process. It would be interesting to read your thoughts. Again: good luck!

 

 

Cheers,

pplater.

 

This message has been edited by pplater on 2009-11-26 05:11:09

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GoldPfeil/Frank Jutzi Regulator

 
By: expwmbat : November 24th, 2009-07:59
Greetings Purists, I'm not really a collector, although I love seeing the incredible watches everyone has around here. Rather, I have a little trio of watches that I love to wear for their uniqueness, variety and versatility. But they aren't anything terr...  

Some thoughts

 
By: SJX : November 24th, 2009-08:46
The Frank Jutzi is far more interesting than the Chopard. I've owned the Chopard LUC Sport 2000 and it is a wonderfully made watch and a great value proposition, but it is not that interesting. The Frank Jutzi is a fairly classical looking watch but it ha... 

Thanks--2892-A2 and 36mm are the main concerns

 
By: expwmbat : November 24th, 2009-09:21
It's a little small, and the movement isn't anything interesting. I've not seen the watch in person, so it's very difficult for me to know whether the execution and design overcome those limitations. Does it impress in person? Would it maintain interest o... 

Price is a factor

 
By: SJX : November 24th, 2009-23:14
As has been alluded to already, the price at which it's selling for now is very compelling and is a big factor in its favour. I can't think of another independent of this quality at this price. I would concern myself with the 2892 base, there are less int... 

Can't agree entirely, SJX...

 
By: pplater : November 25th, 2009-06:44
..(which in itself is unusual!). You write that: "It is not a flamboyant or obvious watch. .... If you are the Vianney Halter or MB&F type of person, this would not be exciting at all" . Speaking as someone who would also tick the Halter/MB&F boxes every ... 

So it is true then

 
By: SJX : November 25th, 2009-07:57
God is in the details.... of the dial. Great thoughts pplater, you make a lot of sense. - SJX

Seek one out...

 
By: pplater : November 24th, 2009-14:51
It really is one of those watches that, as they say, you have to see in the metal to truly appreciate. Take it from a ‘large’ individual and a fan of larger sizes – it wears larger than its size! That may in part be a function of its very open face and th...  

Thank you--and terrific catch there

 
By: expwmbat : November 25th, 2009-06:19
It was the recent offering of that very watch that introduced me to the model and got me interested in the first place. I am also glad it ended up in such a fine home. The lug-to-lug length looks relatively long, and the strap width is wide; both must con... 

If you can hold off...

 
By: pplater : November 25th, 2009-06:27
...until the weekend it may be possible to organise some visual comparitors for you. Cheers, pplater.

Oh, I'll have to hold off longer than that, I think...

 
By: expwmbat : November 25th, 2009-08:52
But I look forward to your pictures. This one is heading to the top of my list as a reward for a long anticipated goal/achievement. I still have a deep desire for a PSM Shimoda, so that's in competition as well, along with the possibility of having a cust... 

BUY it. The Jutzi is ranked second only to the Vianney IMHO

 
By: bernard cheong : November 24th, 2009-16:43
The value is GREAT. It's under priced. The work is great. It's a clock made into a watch in its purest sense. The movt is "appropriate", and there are few works at the price today. I am guessing that it costs way low in 2009. The other piece to consider i... 

I tend to shy away from advisories . . .

 
By: Dr No : November 24th, 2009-22:52
. . . but hope you won't mind my pointing out that you already have "something interesting, different and independent." Cordially, Art

The proof of the pudding in this case is having it in your hand....

 
By: DonCorson : November 25th, 2009-04:03
Although _I_ think the Jutzi regulator would make a nice addition to your collection, it having a completely different esthetic than the others, that is just my opinion. I gave seen it close up, but never handled it so I don't know how it feels. For me th... 

Some photos of Goldpfeil Jutzi

 
By: teetann : November 25th, 2009-18:52
that I saved in my hard drive a few years ago. Hope this helps in your decision making. Cheers! Jutzi Blink..Blink... nice hah: Jutzi and Urwerk that Bernard was talking about:...  

Some comparison shots...

 
By: pplater : November 26th, 2009-05:08
Daniel, here's a few 'quick and dirty' shots which might give you (and others) some sense of proportion for the Goldpfeil/Jutzi regulator moonphase, using a couple of reference pieces which may resonate for you. You have mentioned your fondness for the Pe...  

Who are you...

 
By: pplater : November 26th, 2009-14:16
.... and what have you done with SJX ??? The real SJX knows that there is no such thing as 'too many' - there is always room for 'just one more'! Cheers, pplater.

All great timepieces, Pplater!

 
By: dxboon : November 26th, 2009-09:36
You have such a marvelous collection! The Shimoda is my favorite PSM, the 1815 is one of my favorites from Lange, the MIH is one of the best buys out there IMO, and the Jutzi is quirky and beautiful in its own right. Great watches all! Cheers, Daos

Good grief PP

 
By: ArthurSG : November 26th, 2009-19:25
You're a great resource in that if we need real time side by side comparison, you're probably the one to call since you have practically every interesting piece ever made. And you have to post your shimoda.. Gary's post on his was fantastic and your post ... 

Won't go there...

 
By: pplater : November 26th, 2009-20:56
Thanks for the kind words, wmf1, but any posting of a Shimoda is rendered obsolete by GaryG's top shelf photos of his superb iteration. Since Gary first began his quest to capture the special violet hand on his watch we have been treated to the first and ... 

Another...

 
By: Rob : November 26th, 2009-20:42
superb writeup. Thanks for sharing not only your collection as well as your artful prose but more so your time to do these comparos. We readers are all the more enlightened by them. Thanks again

This is an incredible post, and one I'll have book-marked indefinitely.

 
By: expwmbat : November 27th, 2009-06:27
I am immensely thankful that you've taken the time to photograph and write about all of these watches in comparison to the Jutzi. It holds up very well in some outstanding company. I find the pictures of the case architecture very helpful indeed--the desi... 

Well, since you ask...

 
By: pplater : November 27th, 2009-07:53
This is not an obvious suggestion as it doesn't seem, at first, to play to any of the themes that appear to run in the collection that you have at the moment, nor the pieces you have parted with or the ones that you lust after. You will certainly know the...