Independents

To start off my BaselWorld reports this year I would like to show you the watch of a new French brand Phenomen. Phenomen is based in Besançon the old French watchmaking capital not far from the Swiss bourder in the departement Doubs. With an esthetique de...  

another watch manufacturers product, I will think of the name in a minute.... probably just a coincidence.

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Urwerk and MB&F (HM4) imho

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Here the case has such a special shape easier to get it mixed up with at least one or two well known other brands 😏 Best wishes Alkiro

Rolex and KV is a different class from different world

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(That’s what I was doing)

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But I’m not a fan of the Urwerk and Mb&F’s with those weird lay outs either. Despite finding the technically cool and interesting.

see e.g. the hands.

I think a quartz digital. So this new brand using that form is not an outright copy, maybe they can mature and offer a new perspective at a reasonable price point compared to MBF & UrWerk. However I have a problem with the minutes retrograde and having to... 

I don't understand these new creations because an independent should try to be unique, with his own design. I agree that both Urwerk and max Busser has revealed their inspirations from past design, but there are so many variations to choose amongst

Although I too was reminded of the MB&F Horological Machines, I applaud their effort and wish them luck!

...it would be an immediate pass for me. Looks way too much like Urwerk. Why an independent would spend all that time, money and effort to make something in the mold of another very distinctive independent boggles my mind. Cheers, John

is running around asking every MB&F HM4 to take a DNA test to find out who the father is. NickO

I am sort of perplexed by these responses, do we respond as such to a new round watch being released? There have been many more round watches to copy. I guess that my pictures must be poor. Except that the watch is not round I do not see the big resemblan... 

Someone's heart and soul (not to mention considerable amount of $$$) went into making this. It's not an everyday piece in a classical form, but it's not Invicta either. Surely they know they have narrowed themselves to a very narrow potential customer bas... 

Don, I saw a distinct difference from some of the observers here. The tailfins of automobile from the 1950s/60s that themselves were copies from the Space science fiction. The case shape like the Star Wars movie speeders and air craft. People forget that ... 

but at what price point are they pitching it at Don? It doesnt seem to have the same degree of finishing that the other high level indies have, but if it is priced at that, then perfectly OK. I do see some influences from other brands, but enough individu...