I am too.

Jul 13, 2009,15:25 PM
 

And I agree, Don - it could be so much better.

I have read the reports of the development of this watch with great interest.  When  I heard the MIH team was at it again I was very excited, but I'm afraid this watch is just trying too hard.  I can't help but compare it to the MIH.

The MIH requires no explanations in order to appreciate it's design; it's clear to anyone that it is a good quality minimalist design just by looking at it casually.  If you dig deeper though you find there are interesting mechanical qualities inside the case too, which is a bonus, but certainly not required in order to enjoy the watch.   So it's a great design with immediate appeal, but there is depth to the story too.  Nice.

This watch though is difficult.  The trick movement may be minimalist (and I certainly appreciate that)  but the dial design is anything but, and is quite confusing to read, at least to me. The display of time and date seems unfinished and off balance.  It looks like the punched dial is mis-aligned, but it isn't.

The coarsely machined case is a wonderful idea that I can embrace, but again I'm left puzzled by the execution.  The part of the case that we see most (the body/bezel) does not show much of the interesting machining marks that the makers are so fond of.  Unless I'm missing something it's a simple circle, and that's a shape that doesn't exactly require F1 experience to produce.  I'm sorry but it looks like brushed SS to me.  The intentional machining evidence left on the rear of the watch is working very well I think from an aesthetic standpoint.

The watch is conceptually interesting to me (but only on the inside) and it has cool machining marks (but only on the back side).  Can you appreciate my struggle with this one?  A watch of this sort is purchased based solely on internet pictures (unless you happen to be traveling to Lucerne or St. Moritz where they can be seen in the raw) and the pictures aren't speaking to me one bit.

Contrast this with the introduction of the Settimana Junior, which I like unreservedly.  It's smaller size and extra wide strap are a very cool combination.  The design isn't fussy and it requires no special introduction to understand it -  it's just a very good design that is executed well.  The proportions of the case, dial and numerals are working harmoniously.  The font is just right.   It has the same fancy machining but who cares?   I think it's their best work, and the pictures alone tell the story.  All the text on their web page is unnecessary, because I'm already sold - not for my kids, but for me.



Thanks again for the report Magnus, and I do hope I haven't hurt anyone's feelings with my purely subjective opinions.

Jeff


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Some impressions of my Ochs und Junior Anno 50... (longer than I intended...)

 
 By: Ornatus-Mundi : July 12th, 2009-04:24
Dear All: I promised it already when I reported from me taking possession of the Ochs und Junior Anno 50 (please click here ). I was quite busy recently, but finally, here we are! The Ochs und Junior Anno 50, as I am sure you know by now, is a minimalist ...  

I use the hands ;-) NT

 
 By: Ornatus-Mundi : July 12th, 2009-09:05
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Ronald, in this pic the minute hand is just covering one...

 
 By: Ornatus-Mundi : July 14th, 2009-00:29
note that this is an even earlier prototype: Best, Magnus...  

Wonderful, Personal Post, Magnus

 
 By: Douglas : July 12th, 2009-06:03
Great, Magnus. Several areas attracted me to the Ochs und Junior, but the two key points: One, it is meant to be a very personal watch, involving the wear in the 'time' that defines his/her life; and, two, it is a watch, created by geniuses yet without th... 

I don't know what to say...

 
 By: ling5hk : July 12th, 2009-08:33
With all due respect to the genius behind this watch (that is why I bought MIH), it would only classify this watch as a fun watch with unique mechanism and dial layout. It is not practical at all as compared to MIH. One needs to do "calculation" before da... 

The counter-clock wise arrangement of month and day...

 
 By: Ornatus-Mundi : July 12th, 2009-09:08
was necessary to keep the number of moving parts down to three. Thus, it would spoil Ludwig Oechslin's concept of pureness. It is in fact a very short time required to adjust to this, certainly much less than adjusting to a new car or a new mobile phone. ... 

It is interesting to know...

 
 By: ling5hk : July 12th, 2009-18:24
if the arrangement of month and day is clock wise, how many additional parts are required? Of course, if you wear that watch everyday, you will get used to it. But I am sure with the intelligence of the creators behind this watch, improvement is still pos... 

Depending on the arrangement on the dial, at least 66% more parts...

 
 By: Ornatus-Mundi : July 12th, 2009-23:22
would be required: two, one additional disk for each indication (month, weekday). In such a case the dials would not be symmetrically arranged. If you want that as well, it becomes easily much more. However, this would adulterate a major objective of the ... 

To me, this watch has been compromised by its design.

 
 By: ling5hk : July 13th, 2009-15:57
I don't care about the world record. But I care the geniune intention and true spirit behind the team. Your example is only good when the crown of the watch is moved from right to left. ( compare right hand drive to left hand drive) And I know you like th... 

Magnus thank you for a.................

 
 By: Topcat30093 : July 12th, 2009-10:51
Nicely constructive report.

Excellent post, thanks...

 
 By: polarbear1990 : July 12th, 2009-10:26
Congratulations on your new "Ox"...wear it in the best of health! Myself, I am eagerly awaiting the arrival of my settimana junior. Smart man, I didn't think to ask for a prototype :^)

Great pictorial report!

 
 By: glickman : July 12th, 2009-11:30
Thank you, Magnus, for enabling us to get much closer to the a50. There is a lot to absorb here. BTW, there are now photos of the Gold a50 models on ochsundjunior.ch I am drawn to the story and the aesthetic of Ochs und Junior. The displays seem perfectly... 

Marcus, a fabulous report, but the watch doesnt sing to me

 
 By: G99 : July 12th, 2009-12:03
Ludwig Oeschlin is a genius in my eyes and i own the freak, the Ludwig perpetual and MIH, but this just doesnt do anything for me. i appreciate the in house movement and the concept, but i just dont like it...........yet. Graham

Pleased to meet you & see the a50(s)!

 
 By: dnanian : July 18th, 2009-07:15
You can always spot a Oechslin fan, and Roger noticed me waiting for the same meeting with a telltale sign: my MIH watch. Alas, by the time we got there, Paul Gerber had already left to visit another state, Beat was kind enough to spend quite a few hours ... 

HONEST

 
 By: glickman : July 18th, 2009-12:15
Great to meet you too, David. To me there were no surprises at our meeting with BW. I am captivated by the a50. I get it. It works. The Ochs und Junior team have, in a relatively short time, created a brand of distinction. It starts and ends with the watc... 

a BIG congrats!

 
 By: monochrome : July 12th, 2009-14:43
Congrats Magnus. That is a stunning watch and i love the whole idea about it. The design is also very nice. Wear it in good health

An extremely interesting and heartfelt review...

 
 By: pingtsai : July 12th, 2009-14:57
Thank you Magnus for sharing it with us. I think it is admirable how Mr. Oechslin remained steadfast in his vision, and it certainly was a unique one at that as is always with his watches. The simple, raw, industrial, look of the case is quite a refreshin... 

Congrats Magnus!

 
 By: SJX : July 12th, 2009-17:26
It's a very unique watch and I did not expect any less from the creators of the MIH timepiece. - SJX

This is what it's all about, Magnus

 
 By: Mostel : July 12th, 2009-20:36
Such a personal story, such a personal watch. I am reminded why I love watches and collecting when I read these kinds of reports.

A question about the movement.

 
 By: Mitch K : July 12th, 2009-22:24
I understand that Paul Gerber is going to be producing a watch with his Caliber 41, the same movement as in this watch. It is my understanding that in his watch, Paul is going to construct it so that the owner can (by the push of a pusher) can switch betw... 

You are correct...

 
 By: Ornatus-Mundi : July 12th, 2009-23:30
that Paul Gerber' watch will have a switchable Dead Seconds complication. And another one... But both of them will be exclusive to Paul's own watches (and above all fit their philosophy much better). As to the pricing, here we are (taken from the Ochs und... 

Thanks for the information... but you tantalize with the hint of an added

 
 By: Mitch K : July 13th, 2009-07:37
complication in Gerber's watch. I think that I know what you are referring to but will patiently wait until fully revealed by Paul or ... Mitch This message has been edited by Mitch K on 2009-07-13 07:53:10

Great post!

 
 By: VMM : July 13th, 2009-01:27
It's funny to see the "masters" doing their "job" Thanks for sharing. Vte

I am somehow ambivalent to this watch...

 
 By: DonCorson : July 13th, 2009-12:53
I love the industrial, but with attention to details, finishing of the movement. And, of course, Oechslins radical purism in the mechanism. I like the idea of the case, even if the actual form I'm not so crazy about. But that dial does absolutely nothing ... 

I am too.

 
 By: J_Warden : July 13th, 2009-15:25
And I agree, Don - it could be so much better. I have read the reports of the development of this watch with great interest. When I heard the MIH team was at it again I was very excited, but I'm afraid this watch is just trying too hard. I can't help but ...  

Dear Jeff, thanks for your critical comments!

 
 By: Ornatus-Mundi : July 14th, 2009-00:27
I understand where you are coming from. The MIH watch is indeed much more self-explanatory as the Anno 50. however, the watches have similar but different objectives: While both aim to the work with the smallest number of parts possible for their respecti...  

Hi Magnus,

 
 By: J_Warden : July 14th, 2009-05:55
Thanks again for your comments. I bet this case looks pretty cool when in movement outdoors, so the light catches the toolpaths. It would be really cool if there were a video on the maker's web page showing the play of light on this case, but then again I...