Philippe M
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My opinion is that H9 is intended just to be ...
Mar 14, 2012,02:32 AM
... a talking piece.
From this point of view, it is successful as we are quite numerous to have taken time to post about it ;-) !
However, I feel this is not a brilliant idea and Beat Haldiman's talent deserves better projects.
Cheers.
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Haldimann H9
By: cisco : March 13th, 2012-05:58
"Joke", "marketing", "buzz", many things were said when we discovered this thing with some friends at Baselworld, even if I get this opinions I liked it. The watch itself Aesthetics Haldimann make beautiful watches, the H2 is for some amators the holy gra...
I could :) (if I could ^^ )
By: cisco : March 13th, 2012-07:49
There is surely a marketing effect there but it is still limited. It is an intellectual pleasure above all here. Your RJ is definitely something I will never get Alex Francois
I am pretty sure there is.
By: cisco : March 14th, 2012-06:21
You can't take risk on that . (completely out of subject, I read again and again your article on the Lange 1815 , so long ago now ) Francois
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By: cisco : March 13th, 2012-07:28
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Thanks Francois for this great post !
By: schen : March 13th, 2012-12:28
Well said. I missed Valentin's previous article when he posted it and only caught it later. I'd like to say that I share both his and your viewpoints. As for me, among all (yet certainly a limited number of) watches that I know of, only the Simplicity, H8...
Thanks Song
By: cisco : March 13th, 2012-13:07
If you are "tickled" by this watch, I suppose a wealthy person can be too. Great taste with this one and the simplicity ! cheers Francois
Thanks FX!
By: cisco : March 14th, 2012-01:58
You show nicely the evolution and the interest of Haldimann to go around this controversial subject. My personnal impression is that the H9 is a bit apart, because the first two were focussed on the mechanics, the H9 focus on sensation and owner. That als...
maybe
By: justindependent : March 13th, 2012-16:55
his dial maker and hands maker were angry with him and the only device he could deliver at Basel was a watch missing some critical components.... I am with Alex and some others above, why would I get this? If I wanted to demonstrate wealth and spend frivo...
There are other ways for sure...
By: cisco : March 14th, 2012-02:05
to spend your money. But like modern art comparison done before, you can find it stupid, useless, etc but some can also find that brillant for some reasons. In the case of the H9, some will find it brillant (I do), some will find it stupid.
Thanks for your impressions. My view is .....
By: dreamer8 : March 13th, 2012-16:56
the H9 must be viewed in the context of what the creator did with his previous creations to see the " proper" progression/meaning / intention in art speak. I use one example from the Art world, the slash paintings by Lucio Fontana. If you merely look at h...
I was about to compose a response ...
By: AndrewD : March 17th, 2012-03:03
... to Cisco's original thread and then I came to your reply and I completely agree. The H9 has to be seen in light of the watches that came before it. If it was Haldimann's first watch we would dismiss it as ridiculous. But we KNOW what beats inside and ...
Looks like progressively...
By: sidneyc : March 13th, 2012-19:31
... things start to be blacked out... I'd say the next version the case and buckle is blacked out. The one after that, it comes with a black sleeve the watch wearer will put on. Then finally, it'll come with a black latex suit. Perfect watch for Cat Woman...
I don't know BH other than that the fact that I like the H1...
By: Echi : March 14th, 2012-00:04
Having said that, it is all about integrity. Without it, the H9 falls apart. Does BHaldimann strike you guys as somebody who's frivolous? Is he about hype? I cannot say because I do not know him. But I would like to give him and his vision the benefit of ...
Good questions !
By: cisco : March 14th, 2012-02:18
Thanks for putting them I think dreamer8 and FX answered really well, there is a work on this controversial subject done by Mr Haldimann. If it is Hype? yes for sure but as a consequence . Was it what was researched at first? I don't think so following th...
Indeed...
By: Echi : March 14th, 2012-06:53
Upon further introspection... And this is probably a byproduct of this piece... It is perhaps a fitting conclusion to the series, that in the end, time doesn't matter. Might actually be humorous if you think about it. There is also probably an H10 but we ...
Thought, fun, astonishment, hate
By: cisco : March 14th, 2012-07:36
this "watch" or "thing" brings a lot. But no one would like it to be empty, you still look for something when you buy a high end watch like Haldimann. You look for craftmanship, mechanical feelings , "luxury" , and it has it all with a nice central tourbi...
An italian would have certainly loved it
By: cisco : March 14th, 2012-05:04
Macchiavelli. This watch is brilliant from all the reaction it brings, from the owner point of view when you wear it and from outside. Few watches are really different, this one (if we can call that a watch), is definitely ^^
My opinion is that H9 is intended just to be ...
By: Philippe M : March 14th, 2012-02:32
... a talking piece. From this point of view, it is successful as we are quite numerous to have taken time to post about it ;-) ! However, I feel this is not a brilliant idea and Beat Haldiman's talent deserves better projects. Cheers.
Successful indeed :)
By: cisco : March 14th, 2012-05:16
Neing a talking piece is not the main goal of it, just a consequence or a secondary one. Again as dreamer8 and Foversta said, there is a list of work of Mr Haldimann beofre this one which gives even more sense. It brings a lot of impressions for the guy w...
How how much
By: takashi78 : March 14th, 2012-05:54
does this piece of "art" cost?
Life-support Machine
By: amerix : March 14th, 2012-12:37
brain-dead but breathing? the heart still pumping? nothing to hear, nothing to say ... what bliss ... and they will flock around to admire you for it ... for IT ... but not the servants who keep it wound, oiled and running ... day after day ... in absolut...
I mean... it's nice black glass
By: Mostel : March 14th, 2012-17:07
in a nice case... aesthetically, it is alluring. But allure usually has a payoff. This is what Lenny Bruce once described as 'gettin' it up but not gettin' it off'. This accessory makes fun of itself and pokes fun at all ultra high end watches and collect...
I completely agree with you :)
By: cisco : March 15th, 2012-01:22
We know or should khow how fool we are to love those useless things. As you say it exposes it, it gives a lot of fun and at the same time it is a really beautiful and discrete "watch", it is assuming what we are. You look at it, you smile, you can make as...
Interesting point, but all other watches do that.
By: cisco : March 15th, 2012-01:08
It doesn't do nothing, it ticks, you can hear it, wind it, and look at it, it just doesn't give time. And you have a secret movement which is actually beautiful. Making a far fetched comparison, buying a vintage Longines 13Zn, you have a chronograph like ...
If it stops beating would you send it to be fixed?
By: DaMctosh : March 14th, 2012-19:18
Or would it express the fragility of time and futility of perpetuating mechanical motion? Or would it mean anything if you wear it but don't wind it? Or should we even contemplate these questions for what may be a pretentious piece of expensive jewelry?
I would :)
By: cisco : March 15th, 2012-01:25
I like to hear its tic-tock .
Hmmmmmm not drinking the kool aid on this one
By: Mr.Gatsby : March 15th, 2012-12:22
The brutal truth is that when people start spending silly money on a watch that is not really a watch, I think it really goes to show that we as collectors have spoilt them - the watch makers.
We are spoilt with this passion and happy to be so :)
By: cisco : March 15th, 2012-13:58
not the matchmaker. Watchmaker are the toy maker that makes us happy. If we were sane, we would not be here This "watch" make you focus on its beauty, on the feelings, on the sound of tick tock of tourbillon. Your view is not altered by time or a caliber ...
He He great marketing thing..
By: hans_jorgen_1968 : March 18th, 2012-15:24
... when listening to Mr Haldimann himself at Basel fair last week and watching all the hype that came out of this "watch" do I believe he thinks it has been worth the effort Best Hans
What's the Haldimann H10 going to look like? :P
By: AnthonyTsai : March 19th, 2012-19:12
Is the H10 going to be a black dialed watch with no movement? LOL I don't know what to say about this H9 ... I feel sorry for whoever is going to purchase one of these H9. Even if I had all the money in the world, I wouldn't blow my money on this H9. What...
I suppose Haldimann is just thinking a bit further
By: cisco : March 20th, 2012-10:50
It is called Reduction. Imho Reduction to what is essential in high end watches. Do you like minute repeaters or tourbillon because they tell time? My daughter has turned 3 years old recently, and like every child she knows what is essential. She doesn't ...