In line with the 11 month old thread about Patek’s finishing (which I just read-a bit late) I’m posting a couple pictures of a Parmagiani Tonda 1950 movement and ask that the community weigh in on the quality of finishing on this watch.
I would mention this watch retails at a considerably lower price. Thanks 🙏🏻 ...
TMD,
your watch is beautiful, so don't take it to heart when I say you are quite bad at photographing it .... Both shots are out of focus and blurry, they do the watch and its movement a disservice . Cheers, Filip
great movement, I wanted to share better photos but someone else did that too but here is my take on why Parmigiani is not at Patek /Lange levels
Finish aside (I am not an expert) we have to take into account that Parmigiani Fleurier do share this movement with a number of other brands under the same umbrealla. For instance, the slim d'Hermes, if I am not mistaken, has the same movement just differ...
I agree with this viewpoint
This is spot on. While the Vaucher micro-rotor caliber is rather high-end, it's prestige has been diluted by how much this caliber has been used by other brands. There's even a higher-grade version with 4 hand-finished interior angles that Parmigiani does...
I would phrase it differently…
The Tonda is surely an absolute feast for the eyes in the metal. Your pics are a great attempt to share it and we thank you for it. I shall be delighted to make a nice photo shooting for this beautiful watch next time you come to Paris my friend, don’t fo...
They're definitely better than the first two, especially....
the second image. That movement is gorgeous, a thing of pure artistic, mechanical love . It is indubitably comparable to the best levels of finishing from any brand, in my opinion. Thanks, Filip
The general point is that *lots* of companies finish their watches as well as - or better - than Patek Philippe for a similar price or for less. PP extracts a premium from customers for reasons other than quality.
This isn't the end of the world, though. Good movement finishing is important and a sign of prowess, but it's not everything. The overall composition of a watch matters a great deal more. The whole is greater than the sum of the parts. In this respect, Pa...
Is it your opinion that this Tonda is finished as well as the 6119 in the other post?
My question is sincere.
I think this is the right answer.
Movement finishing is a piece of the puzzle. In some watches a bigger piece (as in, the movement finishing is more "The Point of the Watch") in others smaller. Patek in general, it seems to me, regards it as a smaller piece than many of our beloved small ...
You say it very well
I agree 100%. I‘m a big fan of PF and I think they do an incredible job in trrms of inhouse manufacturing, finishing, and overall quality. Do I prefer PF over PP? No I don’t. I think the two brands cater to different aspects of my passion. Both make excep...
Parmigiani is at a very high level.
Here a couple of shots also from my Tonda 1950 : In terms of finishing this one compares well against my PP Calatrava 6119, ....although it is always hard to compare brands as everyone has its specific finishing style. Best, Gerard ...
Big fan of the Tonda 1950
Will pick one up eventually, seems to be out of the collection at the moment but the last iteration with the larger logo was may favourite so far, perhaps maybe undergoing another design review... Lovely reference
That is in a different league of finishing to the OP's movement.
Look at the plethora of sharp 'internal' angles where there is none on the OP's... And the anglage is in a different 'Postcode'.... This is finishing better than Patek. Lucky man. 👌
Very nice photos.
This is a watch that you can have several of and not feel like they overlap. I have 2 RGs-one with a charcoal dial and one with cream. They look quite different. You’re tempting me to look at WG case.
