nickd
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Movement not watch
Hi Marcus,
I was just saying that I don't think the movement is a copy of the GO movement or that it pretends to be a GO movment. The movements I've seen in fake watches make no pretence at looking like the original, they just position the hands etc appropriately. Perhaps these movements do try to copy the distinctive characteristics of the original, but on the ones I've seen they've not even pretended, and there's some fancy under-dial gubbins to position the hands.
The watch itself is obviously a copy, I'm not disagreeing on this point.
I've got a couple of fake Rolexes, including a "Daytona" with a display back 
- ther'es no pretence at copying the Rolex movement,
nick
Shameless design theft ...
The copy of designs, logos and so on is an old issue within the watch industry. Generally known is the ongoing battle between watch manufacturers and counterfeitors with products of mostly Chinese origin. What seems to be a rather recent trend, however, i...
I find the 'fake movement laundering' especially shocking...
... it's one thing to see counterfeit criminals making dirty money in the margins of society. But when the Armanis of this world start legitimising the Underworld's products, things become infinitely worse! Shame, shame on you, Armani! From now on I will ...
Slow down...
I don't think it's a fake movement (that is, a movement that tries to look like, or pretends to be, a Lange movement), it's just a movement that positions the hors/mins/date etc is certain places. Perhaps I'm wrong on this point, but I don't remember any ...
Sorry Nick, but you're wrong. Look at this fake GO ...
Already the very first Google hit brought up this watch: It needs no expert to realize that it uses the same movement as the Armani watch: And it is also clear that it was designed on purpose to imitate the well-known GO PanoGraph movement. I think the te...
Movement not watch
Hi Marcus, I was just saying that I don't think the movement is a copy of the GO movement or that it pretends to be a GO movment. The movements I've seen in fake watches make no pretence at looking like the original, they just position the hands etc appro...
Sorry again; I still think you are wrong ...
I think we agree that there are different categories of fakes, each targetting different groups of customers. The people buying a $ 199 copy of a GO PanoGraph normally do not know anything about mechanical watch movements, let alone about GO movements. Th...
I agree, this is very disturbing IMHO
Hi Guys, I don't have anything much to add except to say that I don't think one can separate "the movement" from the "fancy under-dial gubbins to position the hands". I understand the point on some level (the movement is not pretending to be a GO movement...
Counter-point...
Bill Yao makes excellent "copies" of the classic Benrus navigator-style watches. He's in the process of bringing out a "copy" of the classic Blancpain 50 Fathoms, he did another series heavily derived from the classic British military type 48 etc. Shouldn...