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I just meant generally...

 

Like I stated, Seiko makes perhaps 300 or 400K watches annually and most of them are relatively cheap quartz.  So, I meant to say that the most of those USD20 or USD100 watches are not worthy to discuss here among watch nuts like us.

More to your point - I honestly don't get what you don't get.  GS are mostly SS, very accurate, service is superb as the top of the line of Seiko.  GS concept is the highest quality as the practical watches - I repeat, practical watches.  So, no or little bell and whistles (of course there are some, some chronograph and such).  The price is reasonable (I don't know the pricing for EUR or US, but GS price ranges from 3K to 7K, about) and it serves the purpose - being practical.  For that, I agree that it is superb.  Credor is different under different concept, by the way.  Credor also is the top of the line, but more on the luxury side with Urushi dial, Noritake dial, etc., for example.  It really comes down to one's expectation from the watches.  As you know, my watches are not only Seikos, but variety of watches and I like and respect Seiko, GS or Credor, as much as I do ALS, Moser, Patek, etc.

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Grand Seiko, in the metal ....

 
By: small-luxury-world : December 9th, 2010-11:32
Today I visited the first AD in my country, which is an official dealer for GS. They had some pieces in stock. My favourites have been the simple ones and only one of them was in stock: (SBGW001J) My first impression was - nice! Perfect size on the wrist ...  

I'm not sure about the anti reflective coating

 
By: Richard C : December 9th, 2010-12:45
except to say that it has never bothered me. It does have a high domed saphpire crystal which may result in different sorts of reflection than a more typical flatter crystal. I kind of know what you mean about the crown in the sense that it doesn't seem t... 

Thanks Richard ...

 
By: small-luxury-world : December 9th, 2010-17:58
for your reply. "it is a very 'Japanese' watch with a feel and asthetic quite unlike high quality European watches" That was my impression as well. Like my Mazda MX5 which I used to own in the past. It was a nice looking car, offering lots of fun, for a r... 

I'd describe it as having a feeling of utilitarian luxury.

 
By: Richard C : December 9th, 2010-19:09
Solid, very conserative, retro styled in a 60's Tokyo kind of way. Impecably finished. A simple yet highly evolved manufacture movement which is highly accurate and super stable in all positions. It appealed to me as a perfect office watch also. I think S... 

Funny.....

 
By: MiniCooper : December 11th, 2010-13:37
I also used to own an MX-5... What colour was yours? Cheers

When Seiko Japan....

 
By: db darien : December 9th, 2010-13:59
1. Creates a network of authorized dealers (including one east of the Mississippi River.... is that too much to ask ?) 2. Further clarifies how one is to get his/her GS serviced without having to send it all the way back to Japan and waiting for God-knows... 

Then you will have to wait a bit longer....

 
By: KIH : December 9th, 2010-15:39
While Seiko is the brands that makes 300K to 400K watches a year (most of which are quartz), the worthy watches for watch nuts like us is relatively small quantity, and resources in that department is quite limited, with top watchmakers having been awarde... 

"the worthy watches for watch nuts like us!"

 
By: small-luxury-world : December 9th, 2010-18:14
Hi Ken, if you say worthy , what do you have in mind. Inner values? I really try to understand that product - Grand Seiko. So far I don´t get it, if I consider the money they ask for. The winding of the watches felt very smooth and the accuracy should be ... 

I just meant generally...

 
By: KIH : December 9th, 2010-18:41
Like I stated, Seiko makes perhaps 300 or 400K watches annually and most of them are relatively cheap quartz. So, I meant to say that the most of those USD20 or USD100 watches are not worthy to discuss here among watch nuts like us. More to your point - I... 

Your loss

 
By: ebcohn1 : December 9th, 2010-17:15
These are exceptional time pieces. I have sent a Patek to New York and not seen it for 3-4 months. I am still violated by the cost. I sent a Grand Seiko to Japan and had it back in 3 weeks. It cost under $300 including shipping. Seiko is a superior produc... 

"exceptional time pieces"

 
By: small-luxury-world : December 9th, 2010-18:16
Hi, could you please help me to understand exceptional in this case? Thanks! Oliver

Why Grand Seiko is exceptional in my humble opinion

 
By: SJX : December 9th, 2010-19:30
Hi Olivier, Here is why I think GS is exceptional as an owner of several as well as having seen both factories. 1. Case work is excellent, especially on the cases with contrasting polished/brushed finishes; the edges are sharp and carefully done. The mode... 

SJX, thanks for your reply ...

 
By: small-luxury-world : December 9th, 2010-19:48
which is appreciated a lot. Just one more question: Why do they go that far in most of the details, but leave out the crown? At the moment the crown is the only reason for me not to buy one. Just a tiny detail, but even for that kind of money I like to ge... 

The crown

 
By: SJX : December 9th, 2010-20:12
Hi Oliver, Which aspect of the crown disappoints you? The relief GS logo or the knurls on the crown? - SJX

The crown looks ...

 
By: small-luxury-world : December 10th, 2010-00:24
somehow raw , to me. Together with the bigger size it is in full view. The GS logo is hard to see, but that is no problem for me. Oliver

Interesting.....

 
By: MiniCooper : December 11th, 2010-13:35
How would you com are the finishing of GS with Blancpain and/ or JLC? Thanks Cheers

Interesting question ...

 
By: small-luxury-world : December 12th, 2010-00:10
and not that easy to answer. All three brands have offers in different price levels. I will try. Lets compare the price level € 4-10K, steel cases, Leman line from Blancpain, Master line from Jaeger and GS. In this case I would say Blancpain is superior (... 

I disagree

 
By: SJX : December 16th, 2010-09:13
I think GS is superior to both BP and JLC in terms of dials and hands, as well as case work. Decorative movement finish JLC and BP win out, and I'd assume functional finish is similar. - SJX

Interesting ...

 
By: small-luxury-world : December 17th, 2010-02:39
" GS is superior to both ..." Not sure if we talk about the same watches. Are there different quality levels for the markets? Would love to discuss the topic with one example (at least) from each brand in our hands, to understand your points on that. In j...