does this mean no one will help me put this back together?

seems i've wasted $25

once I figured out how to take the stem out (thanks for the help) what a total POS this movement is. I think the whole thing is made from POP metal. without taking anything off, and being very careful... the movement would run, not run, run... I had to bang it a little to get it going.

I got the movement out and the rotor was removed... I took off the next plate and crap when flying. I have no idea where the mainspring went. Some of the things that went flying I recovered. Now i'm not sure if there were real jewels used (they kind of looked like red paint) or if they were the thinest rubies ever. Non the less, it wasn't "quality".

I kept taking things apart, moving things, taking more off until there was pretty much nothing left.

Before you all blast me as a criminal enabler... I did learn quite a bit. I could see how things interacted with each other, how pushers kind of worked, how gears and levers moved etc... So all was not a total waste.

Now who's going to help me put this back together?

Help Educate Little Tree

By: turtletone2 : June 12th, 2009-13:06

So, I want to learn a little more on how a movement works and what everything does. I took a walk over to China Town in NYC where I live and picked up an automatic knockoff to be my victim. Sweet. It even has a display back. Everything seems to be working...

my advice would be this

By: G99 : June 12th, 2009-13:13

smash the cheap piece of fake crap with a hammer and spend $50 on a used seiko. its a real watch not pretending to be something its not, you wont be lining the pockets of what are effectively criminals as you seem to have just done and you'll probably lea...

Hold on a second

By: turtletone2 : June 12th, 2009-13:22

my goal is not to support "crime", of coarse I knew this is a fake, and not a very good one at that it feels like plastic as a matter of fact. It did have a mechanical movement which was my goal and my point is to understand how it works. If I'm unsuccess...

not a problem, i just...

By: G99 : June 12th, 2009-13:51

not a problem, i just wanted to make a point. counterfeiting is a serious problem starting from the very poor efforts as in your watch going all the way up the ladder to huge amounts of money. best Graham

hold on again; reprise

By: cazalea : June 15th, 2009-15:51

Hi there, I am perhaps THE pre-eminent (or the only) fake-watch-smasher on the Purists. home.watchprosite.com Please remember Graham, as a former law enforcement person, understandably takes a strong stand on these things. Let's respond to your original a...

Love this pic! Awesome. [nt]

By: amanico : June 15th, 2009-21:55

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But Graham the world needs bad guys :-).....

By: SALMANPK : June 12th, 2009-14:52

If there were no bad guys how would the good guys be able to showoff and get the girl in the end? Tongue in Cheek and Just Kidding HAGWE, S

LOL! Bob [nt]

By: masterspiece : June 12th, 2009-22:03

Too True

By: au7778 : June 13th, 2009-19:28

Just feel sick seeing such a lawbreaking object. Keeping it is abetting crime!

does this mean no one will help me put this back together?

By: turtletone2 : June 15th, 2009-19:08

turtletone, i think its best...

By: G99 : June 16th, 2009-01:38

turtletone, i think its best left as it is. i suppose it did show you what goes into a working movement even if the tin used wasnt of the normal quality. an escapement and hairspring have to work so inspecting the one you've got cant do you any harm, you ...

Here's a Vacheron Constantin that started out nice; was hacked

By: cazalea : June 16th, 2009-10:18

Just shows you don't have to start with a bad watch to end up with a bad watch. But it's more likely when you start with a knock-off. It doesn't take much to get started, to have great fun, and to do real damage! But you get the pleasure of improving lots...