SuitbertW
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I believe......
Hello, Jeff,
I believe there's no question AP's autmatic tourbillon presented in 1986 was the first automatic wrist watch tourbillon.
And, all matters of tastes aside, I'd say is a remarkable example as well - titanium tourbillon cage (this tourbilllon even has it's balance wheel in center
) and impressively thin (IIRC the entire watch is 4.8mm only!) . Achieved by using the case back as movement mainplate and I believe it's also the reason fo rusing a pendulum weight for automatic winding. It's an incredibly slim watch (and IMHO calling this "..., it was that strange looking TV screen on edge piece." doesn't really do it justice).
As for "What most people don't know was that it was ETA that did the watch for AP. " ....thhat's really interesting and you've made me really curious.
"Eta did the watch for AP" surely sounds like "this watch is physically made by ETA" and just labeled AP??
I wouldn't be surprised to learn that a specialised part of the ETA group played a role in design, construction or delivering specialized parts - as they
do for many, many others....
But as said - "ETA did that watch for AP" sounds like much. much more.
As I know you're a real industry insider and you'd not use this sort of explicit phrase thoughtlessly - I'm really keen on learning more about the background on this!!!
As for the reason designing the cage/porthole at this position - of course I believe this to be the reason if Mr. Calabrese told so, but....
first, I've to admit that I personally would very much prefer the (decorated or not) rotor as background for thetourbillon any time - to me almost anything looks
more attractive as a hairy skin pressed against glass
Of ourse that purely personal and to me that's also the reason I can admire skeleton movements only if not on the wrist.....
Best regards and keen tol earn more!
Suitbert
Is Yellow Gold Still OK?
By: jkingston : August 10th, 2009-07:35
I sure hope the answer is yes. In truth I guess I am not given to a single color--rose, white. Yes to both. Even though you have to search these days to find yellow, it looks just as good to me now as it used to. And so does this one, my first tourbillon,...
... and thus...
By: Ornatus-Mundi : August 10th, 2009-09:11
its back side with the beautiful engraving is more visible as it can be admired through the tourbillon porthole. However, this applies not to the wearer as he/she is going to admire the watch with the tourbillon on top, so the rotor is hidden then. Best, ...
Exactly Right
By: jkingston : August 10th, 2009-23:51
Steve, you nailed it on the position of the tourbillon. I spent a day with Vincent Calabrese talking about his creation of the Blancpain tourbillon (and for that matter his work on the Blancpain Carrousel). The convention had been to place tourbillons at ...
I believe......
By: SuitbertW : August 12th, 2009-03:08
Hello, Jeff, I believe there's no question AP's autmatic tourbillon presented in 1986 was the first automatic wrist watch tourbillon. And, all matters of tastes aside, I'd say is a remarkable example as well - titanium tourbillon cage (this tourbilllon ev...
I'm curious, too, Jeff . . .
By: Dr No : August 12th, 2009-09:38
. . . as the movement in the AP automatic tourbillon introduced in '86 doesn't seem like the sort of project ETA would normally get involved with. A movement with an 18 kt plate that doubles as the bottom of the case, no shock absorption, a pendulum rathe...
Thanks, Magnus .....
By: SuitbertW : August 13th, 2009-03:25
....interesting info, as allways! I know only little about those specialized parts of the ETA group - just gathered a bit here and there.... I'm a little bit familiar with the Omega central Tourbillon and the developement thoug - and also the part ETA pla...
Long Power Reserves
By: jkingston : August 11th, 2009-01:57
You're right, the Blancpain tourbillons, with the exception of the Grande Date models, have 8 day power reserves. Because the large date takes a little more power, its power reserve is 7 days. But in answer to your other comment about long power reserve a...
A wild guess...
By: patrick_y : August 12th, 2009-12:22
First of all, beautiful watch. My guess is that Vincent Calabrese designed the automatic rotor to be skeletonized so the rotor wouldn't cover up the flying tourbillon portion of the watch? Wild guess, don't hold it against me. Enjoy this beautiful rare wa...