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In its current
form it is hopeless. Electric motors are dramatically more efficient than ICE engines but that is only a small part of the story.
The enviromental cost of battery production, their disposal, low energy density and consequent high weight make the whole thing a pointless exercise in virtue signalling.
If they had waited until battery technonogy had produced one with about 3X the energy density it would have been a different story.
Anyway the whole premise of lowering carbon dioxide emmisions in the West is completely pointless.
Firstly, it is a lagging indicator, the temperature goes up first, then carbon reacts.
Secondly, if you have been to anywhere in India or China you can see for yourself the massive pollution they produce, so much that the UK's contribution of below 1% is so low as to be completely insignificant.
The whole thing is an outrageous scam
Kind regards
Antony
Apple canceled theirs, Aston Martin has
delayed theirs due to lack of demand. What you say?? Electric cars? Just an opinioin here but I think a lot of manufacturers jumped the gun when it come to them. Everyone was all in on EV's then realized the world really doesn't have the infrastructure fo...
EV / Autonomous
Is here to stay. National mandates from G20 nations almost guarantee that. It will definitely service / fill the urban / suburban around town needs almost immediately. Rural and longer trips will take some time but this is a done deal.
When you consider
the real world range available, it's all a bit silly. For optimum battery life they should only be charged to 80%, then, all manufacturers overstate the real world range, usually by at least 10% So, that smart looking 'earth friendly" eco-marvel isn't at ...
…..and let’s not forget everyone was very green until the moment the subsidies dried up and buyers had to pay for these
EVs with their own hard-earned cash. I will happily drive my 6.0L W12 Phaeton until there’s a better alternative
Actually, if you look at the data for where the electricity comes from,
electricity generated by natural gas, oil and coal is being replaced by wind and solar... l So no, not *all* of us are idiots...
It’s not that simple. Aggregate generation statistics are misleading at best.
You can generate as many gigawatts of electricity from renewables (or non-renewables) as you like, but unless said generation is available during times of peak demand it’s not going to matter. Furthermore, voltage support must also be available not just i...
I am confused
As a reader of so-called "fact" sheets, I have encountered many which describe the problem you're suggesting the authors don't know about - that is, the need to balance intermittent generation with grid level storage. Here are a few examples - www.nre...
Has it crossed your mind
that the authors you cite are aware of these issues but gloss over them in an effort to advance their agendas, be they motivated by profit, ideology, or both? There are no “gotchas” here. These are realities which grid operators are dealing with TODAY. Pe...
My friend, I am again confused -
Why would they gloss over the need for grid storage, when funding for their products and research relies on the magnitude of the problem at hand? There are many research groups, startups and incumbents vying to provide the solution to the grid storage pro...
What has happened around here is pumping water uphill when electric is cheap at night, and running it down at daytime when it's expensive
but this doesn't add to the supply, it's just arbitrage to take advantage of pricing that is skewed to "dampen" demand in the daytime and enhance it at night. Neither really help the situation of uneven supply from solar and wind. Not to mention killing b...
Exactly!
Arbitrage is precisely the point! One of the main problems with wind and solar is that they are intermittent - that is, power generation (supply) doesn't necessarily follow power consumption (demand), so you need some way of smoothing it out. This is a hu...
Chicken or the egg problem?
The technology isn't mature enough for mass adoption but then if the mnfrs and govt didn't make a push, maybe it never would be?
In its current
form it is hopeless. Electric motors are dramatically more efficient than ICE engines but that is only a small part of the story. The enviromental cost of battery production, their disposal, low energy density and consequent high weight make the whole thi...
Lectures are quite useful
for shedding light on the truth...should one be open to the facts... As you said, it takes ten years to grow a tree, but a hundred to grow a man; but if you close your ears and run from lectures, you might remain a sapling forever...
Omg…wasn’t expecting you to stalk me here, lol, leave me alone please. I’m not a noble person and I’ve sinned but I’m prepared to go to hell…
There is always 2 sides on a coin. You can save the world and go to heaven, amen. Thank you.
Hey,
I like cars too, polluting or not I have no EVs or hybrids, but a nice 370 HP V6 right now. You would be sadly disappointed if you thought you could get away from my stalking in hell, because I suspect I'll end up right there with you :P
You won’t find me there as I’m in deeper hell level than you haha 😂
This is my garage…I do have a hybrid but 2 V8s. Cheers buddy, have a great weekend 👍🏻 ...
Indeed, CO2 will go up as a result of temperature increases...
as the solubility of CO2 in water decreases with rising temperatures and it is liberated from the oceans. That is something you can demonstrate with a can of soda at home - take the can out from the fridge, more CO2 bubbles come out. But that doesn't mean...
Better batteries are coming.
And most trips are short. I have a plug-in hybrid, with electric range around 25 miles, and I can go weeks without using gas. And I have solar panels on my house.
Mercedes has delayed going totally EV as well…
I thought hybrid would have been a reasonable compromise. And while I am not an EV convert, I do believe it will be the future as more and more governments establish laws to phase out ICE cars. And this would naturally lead to reduced production of ICE ca...
I buy the argument everyone has to do good for the environment…
But the whole idea has taken on a very strong financial angle to it. Everyone is thinking how to make money out of this thematic. We are talking about trillions needed to transit to achieve the grand plan of net zero. How much incremental emissions are go...
We are in a transitional phase …
EV’s are and will continue to rapidly evolve. I use an EV on a regular basis and then enjoy a variety of petrol cars when the time is right. I don’t see why some people feel that EV’s are the enemy when we all need to remember that toxic air pollution in ...
I’m not ready to convert
From ICE to EV quite yet. Don’t know if I will be in 5 years either. My question involves the reports you read about how much pollution it takes to manufacture an EV. Including that process , is it really better for the environment than ICE over its lifet...
Here are some sources which address your concerns...
Copied from myself in another thread - I didn't really look particularly hard so not pushing an agenda beyond the "scientific consensus", these were just the top cited papers on the topic: : "The study shows that the environmental burdens of mobility are...
Here are some sources which address your concerns...
Copied from myself in another thread - I didn't really look particularly hard so not pushing an agenda beyond the "scientific consensus", these were just the top cited papers on the topic: pubs.acs.org : "The study shows that the environmental bur...
The ones who scaled back on their EV efforts are the ones who were late going in and never had the manufacturing efficiencies down pat..
So from a purely business standpoint, these guys never had a chance. As to the other aspects of it, it’s all up for debate. Personally, I want both. An EV for every day efficiency and a diesel powered pickup just in case the former runs out of juice and I...
Agree 💯
Had one for two years but it just didn’t work for me. Back to old school again
I was think of getting a BYD EV in a year or two,
but the charging infrastructure here is pathetic, may get a tri-star again before getting an EV or hybrid since ICE will only be phase out in 2030 here. The future is hydrogen fuel depending how the world can play catch up with the east.
Don't forget Dyson, who cancelled their electric car project too; you can argue they DO know their way around efficient electric motors (but that's not enough)
"The Dyson Automotive team have developed a fantastic car; they have been ingenious in their approach while remaining faithful to our philosophies. However, though we have tried very hard throughout the development process, we simply cannot make it commer...
I'm gonna continue guzzling as much gasoline as I can. Not at all an EV guy here.
15 MPG in the LT4: My 1/2 ton truck averages around 18 MPG with a 6.2L V8, but it will soon be replaced by either GM's 6.6L V8 or Ford's 7.3L V8. These babies get around 12 MPG. Happy to keep doing my part. ...
