Audemars Piguet

Good day AP forum! Just picked this AP Diver up, but seller didn't box or papers. My initial thought is it's legit, but wanted to get a second or third opinion. Thank you in advance, I really appreciate it!...  

AP divers replicas are quite good, but the movement is a dead giveaway.... is a Asian clone of an ETA 2824

but the movement not anymore that good. At least it's not "the same" 3120 cal. I bought. Best, Kari

The caseback is a dead give away

Can't believe the rotor is that detailed, at first glance you wouldn't think it's a replica. I was comparing online photos of a fake RO with clear caseback to a gen, it is amazing how similar they are, I think it is very possible to fool most people. Pret... 

i was thinking, maybe those sellers use pics of "real" watches, after you paid, you still get a cheap clone... What can you do about it??

That it's actually different movement because the rotation (position of the balance wheel) is different.

The engraved rotor is very common in replicas, if you want to spot in a blink a fake movement look at the regulator.... the cal. 3120 has a free sprung balance (like many others high end calibers), something that you will never, ever find in a replica... ... 

. . . that responded so quickly. Scamming makes my blood boil. Gratefully, Art

did you pay for it?

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the worst kind of posts when visiting this forum 1. Counterfeit issues 2. Reliability/ malfunction issues Hope to see a post soon that blows us all away (positively)

A lesson about buying online from people you can't verify. It doesn't help that a certain very large world wide auction and sales website has no interest in preventing fraud as long as they get their commission. I speak from experience. I personally filed... 

Heck I even get paranoid buying from AD let alone anonymous online resellers

A discussion about this transaction is taking place at WUS.

I have just found it and started reading it. I don't want to get into a "he said vs. he said" situation. I have all of our emails, screen shots from his eBay post, all the boxes, papers, and receipts for the Rolex, and pictures from his AP. I just want my... 

Demand my Rolex back. End of story. I read his story on WUS and to be honest, something is "fishy" there!

I'm currently on page 23 from the WUS thread

I can\'t see this situation occurring with the new divers where you can view the movement.

I find it faintly worrying that the OP managed to remove the back of his Diver and pronounce that his initial thought was "legit" but couldn't differentiate between (at best) an ETA 2824 or (worse) an Asian clone 2824 and an in-house 3120. Google would ha... 

There are quite a few people that review and report fakes on EBay.