Thought provoking topic!

May 27, 2018,04:53 AM
 

It seems luxury watchmakers like ALS prefer to price based on perceived value rather than supply and demand. They perceive their brand to sit amongst the gods of horology (their perception meets with reality in this instance), hence they set their retail prices in the upper echelons. Interestingly in some instances they do achieve these prices, think Handwerkskunst and limited editions, but a great many models are discounted by AD’s, in a few cases fairly heavily!

The theory, I guess is keep retail prices on par with the quality and aspirations of the brand. Some customers are willing to pay retail for desirable models. The harder to shift models will be discounted based on demand. Eventually as the brand strengthens, discounts will be less common, especially as production is limited. Eventually production is increased and the cycle continues.

Utopia for any luxury brand is when demand outstrips supply and retail prices and premiums are comfortably met. Despite Patek’s production numbers peaking at 58,000 last year (vs 5,000 for ALS), they manage to maintain high prices relative to their market segment and have less motivation to discount, which usually means that either productions numbers or price increases will follow.

Liquidity in the secondary market is also an important factor. Consumers are more likely to buy (at whatever price) if there is confidence that their timepiece will retain its value in the secondary market. The almost cult following that Patek has in the auction market is consistent and deep rooted, hence attracting a steady mix of collectors, secondary market retailers, investors and speculators. This is something that ALS and Richemont as a group are particularly bad at, improve auction coverage and that is a strong support for the primary market.






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Brief article about how Lange prices Langes

 
 By: CR : May 26th, 2018-17:00
Stefan is a Harvard Business School professor (and Lange aficionado) who wrote a case study about the brand last year as a teaching tool. The case study itself is quite interesting, and a related article about it just came out here .

This is a question I've tried to ask everyone at ALS corporate I've ever met (not many people, zero real answers).

 
 By: Jay (Eire) : May 26th, 2018-17:23
My perception, which could be wrong as perhaps my view of this market is too narrow, is that only a small number of production would actually be purchased at retail price. Why is that? What does that say about how their products are priced? That would be ... 

thanks CR!

 
 By: Joepny : May 26th, 2018-17:59
Ah, I was disappointed by the article because I was hoping for more depth about the case study. It would be so compelling to find out how the big boys ALS, PP, and AP price model and what the unquantifiable value “heritage & tradition & exclusivity” trans... 

I know what you mean...

 
 By: CR : May 26th, 2018-18:07
The article is just a brief, layperson's overview. However, the case study itself takes a much deeper dive into how Lange does actually does this. It'd be interesting to see how some of those other companies -- especially the independently-owned ones like... 

Thanks for sharing the article.

 
 By: Rhyzen : May 26th, 2018-23:50
Pricing for Lange is an inherent challenge, given that the strategy is ultimately dependent on the moves of its key competitors. The other key variable, as debated extensively, is its performance in the secondary market.

Thought provoking topic!

 
 By: Langeholic : May 27th, 2018-04:53
It seems luxury watchmakers like ALS prefer to price based on perceived value rather than supply and demand. They perceive their brand to sit amongst the gods of horology (their perception meets with reality in this instance), hence they set their retail ...