sure, with pleasure

Feb 03, 2021,07:26 AM
 

In order to make a new watch like the Cabaret, they would have to construct a new case and a movement for this form. The investment cost for this needs to be earned by the number of watches that you are going to sell in this model line. I. e. all types and variations. Since ALS does not work with base movements and modules on top of it like PP (which does not make them bad), they would also need a movement for the basic type and different movements (alterations) for all complicated models (moon phase, etc.). Rectangular watches are much less popular in the market than round ones. ALS makes 7.500 watches a year. They would sell less than, let us say for example 5% of their production, rectangular ones. That makes 300-400 in this form. Investment for this divided by expected production=cost/piece. This would be relatively high. Prices you could ask for the basic ones on the other end would not be higher than round ones. So your profit is low per piece with the rectangular one. Investors like Richmont would make a development decision based mostly on thoughts of investment - profit considerations (which does not make them bad per se), so they would not go for a niche watch like a rectangular line. Making the Odysseus sports line was a year-long and well thought project for ALS. It is their only line that uses different cases and materials. The situation here is completely different. Steel sports watches are the best selling watch type. In the same case, they can make different versions (f.e. Chronos and GMT- that will follow next IMO). Demand is huge, so they can ask high prices for it - more than for a comparable basic dress watch. So the Investment/cost=profit consideration tells you to make a sports SS watch and not a new Cabaret. They could of course take out the old plans for the original Cabaret and just remake it. But then the general (not the collectors) market would bash them for not doing something new.


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Cabaret in platinum

 
 By: samwan : February 2nd, 2021-22:38
sadly, a discontinued model.... Nico and Fernando - you may like this one You may recall that I got it through the Internet, at a reasonable price. This watch now sits on vintage elephant skin... It is one of two non-limited models in my 15-piece Lange co...  

World class...

 
 By: mdg : February 2nd, 2021-22:56
...love the case and the shaped movement. I wish Lange would make something like it again...

sure, with pleasure

 
 By: Humanist : February 3rd, 2021-07:26
In order to make a new watch like the Cabaret, they would have to construct a new case and a movement for this form. The investment cost for this needs to be earned by the number of watches that you are going to sell in this model line. I. e. all types an... 

One workaround is to just re-issue it...

 
 By: mdg : February 3rd, 2021-08:09
...otherwise, we are all stuck hunting down existing examples.

Thank you.

 
 By: Jay (Eire) : February 6th, 2021-07:02
I guess my assumption was also that there would not be developing a new calibre from scratch, and so much of the development costs would be avoided. I don’t know if they would be bashed for doing this, but perhaps you are right if they were to just roll o... 

We all share the same wish

 
 By: samwan : February 2nd, 2021-23:03

Mine was recently serviced. Came back like new. ;)

 
 By: fernando : February 2nd, 2021-23:23
cheers fernando ...  

Lovely

 
 By: samwan : February 2nd, 2021-23:32
Mine shows a lot of wear and tear. Maybe I should have it serviced as well...

Aaaah, this one... :))))

 
 By: amanico : February 3rd, 2021-08:21

An elegant gem.

 
 By: ArmisT : February 3rd, 2021-00:51
And the elephant strap is an excellent addition.

Glad you like it... :)

 
 By: samwan : February 3rd, 2021-01:49

+1

 
 By: amanico : February 3rd, 2021-01:37

If we look at the owners...

 
 By: piccolochimico (aka dsgalaxy1) : February 3rd, 2021-03:55
They are with no doubt true Lange lovers, as well as watchmaking lovers. You don't choose a shaped watch with a dedicated movement if you don't understand it. You know what I mean, it's a matter of balance between aesthetic and mechanics. Lange's path is ... 

Well analyzed

 
 By: samwan : February 3rd, 2021-06:58
BTW there is also a special edition for LOG (Lange Owner's group) in white gold (silver dial), if I remember correctly

Gorgeous

 
 By: blau : February 3rd, 2021-05:32
I might have to own one of these one day. The Cabaret is so good.

Ask Nico or Fernando....

 
 By: samwan : February 3rd, 2021-06:59
Hunting is also part of the fun

I'd love to hear it!

 
 By: blau : February 3rd, 2021-13:01

beautiful

 
 By: donizetti : February 3rd, 2021-05:51
great strap too. One on my (too long) list .... Best Andreas

When you do not have a list

 
 By: samwan : February 3rd, 2021-07:01
that's the dangerous moment, because you will jump on anything that walks by...

Outstanding!

 
 By: aperna : February 3rd, 2021-05:57

Thank you

 
 By: samwan : February 3rd, 2021-07:01

Loves the Cabaret.

 
 By: singingbee : February 3rd, 2021-06:25
Especially this particular variant. It is such a cool piece from Lange. Hope they will bring back the Cabaret in one form or another in the future.

I prefer the PT version (black dial)

 
 By: samwan : February 3rd, 2021-07:00
to the regular WG (blue dial) but the latter is also beautiful

Thank you for opening my eyes . . .

 
 By: Jim14 : February 3rd, 2021-11:26
with this post. I love my Grande Lange 1 and have always considered another piece from the marque. Whenever I see the Cabaret, I immediately skip over it, reminding myself that I have a stunning gold Reverso that "scratches that itch". But seeing this one... 

Thank you for the kind words.

 
 By: samwan : February 3rd, 2021-16:25
I will remember what you said next time I wear the watch