Initial observations on the new master control release

Apr 26, 2020,12:53 PM
 

As a longtime advocate of strong journeyman watches with modern movements and timeless elegant simple design:


I find the basic three hand/date master iteration decent, but wonder why the move from 39 to 40mm case? (The new case silhouette is lovely) My steel TTGeophysic 1958 from 2014, with thin bezel, wears large at 38.5mm and the new case, with thinner bezel, should likewise wear large. Does anyone else recall that when the TTG was released, there was criticism by some not about the automatic movement, but that it was too large at 38.5mm? Need to see in person to judge the overall look on (my) wrist. The silver on silver hands on dial may have legibility issues as well. But, most perplexing, is, with the new movement/70 hour pr and 5 bar wr, why is the seconds hand not hacking? For an everyday work watch, this is a definite lapse.

The master calendar, from the side profile shows how posteriorly offset the crown is on the case. Why is it not centered? Is the movement module that bulky? I find it inelegant. The date pointer with the jlc logo is clever.

Similarly, the master chronograph calendar, shows the chrono pushers are not aligned with the crown, another tell of the non-integrated movement. Finally, call me a details man, but I still find the chrono subdial diameters on virtually all modern chronographs too large -- the vintage chronos, with smaller subdials, may have been less legible, but seem more refined and and elegant from a design/proportions perspective.

For all these models, the simple date and more fancy calendar models, it also is odd that there is no mention of jumping date(s) in all the descriptions. In today's age, a modern movement should have jumping dates, days, months, etc. If these models do having jumping calendar changes, why was this not included in the descriptions?

JLC continues to insist on excess verbiage a la the "Automatique" label. Why? I guess someone high up in the chain thinks it looks classy, especialy with the "que" spelling smile

And of course, I do wish, as ever, we would hear more, no something/anything, of substance from Mme Renier during these peculiar times.

I do look forward to seeing them in person. Be well and safe. M


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Well, it's a new year.... what should we do?

 
 By: r0gue : April 26th, 2020-13:39
Well,.. Let's make our watches bigger, and leave the movement the same size! And put a crystal on the back so you can't even pretend it's so small. Lovely in many ways,.. it will be a hit for someone, and this is understandable. I've grown far too persnic... 

Yes, to be seen in the flesh, before any final judgement. I can agree on the unnecessary wording, a curious habit, indeed. As for the size of the chono subdials, a matter of taste.

 
 By: amanico : April 26th, 2020-13:56
Jumping date, I will have to ask. As you can imagine, it is not easy, these days, to communicate with the brands. Their informations are not top complete, either. We'll come back to all this a bit later. With real pictures. Best, Marc. Nicolas

Yes, I will! [nt]

 
 By: amanico : April 26th, 2020-14:28

The out of line pushers and crown

 
 By: dhendolan : April 26th, 2020-14:21
Are an unfortunate result of the modular construction. See all the various watches utilizing Dubois-Depraz chronograph modules. I don't like it.

759 is an integrated chronograph - not modular. The 866AA and 899AC are hacking.

 
 By: brandon1 : April 27th, 2020-10:52
Chiming in because the basic movement is the 751 - a fully integrated chronograph. The calendar works is (reported to be) a module. As for why the pushers are out of alignment, I have no idea, and an explanation from JLC would be most helpful. I have no i... 

Yep, true. [nt]

 
 By: amanico : April 27th, 2020-13:36

Hopefully JLC is listening

 
 By: dhendolan : April 26th, 2020-14:25
So they can include "Hacking Second" and "Jumping Date" script on the dials next year.

;-) !! Well played !! [nt]

 
 By: remarque : April 26th, 2020-14:33

I completely agree with your observations

 
 By: dhendolan : April 26th, 2020-14:37
I'm looking forward to seeing these in the metal. I've always held JLC in high regard.

I agree that the misaligned chrono pushers results in a rather strange profile

 
 By: logan2z : April 26th, 2020-18:20
The previous Master Chronograph had the pushers properly aligned with the crown but that was a fully integrated movement. I think it's a shame that they didn't retain the chronograph in the lineup, I personally think that the chrono/calendar will have les... 

Yes, Mme Renier has been relatively silent since her appointment to the helm of JLC.

 
 By: Thomas_3 : April 27th, 2020-09:33
Aside from a a promo picture or two I would not even know she existed.