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Ok, will try to elaborate.
I wanted to wait to be in Geneva to be able to take some pictures of the WT, to show you what I don't like with the autimatic calibre of the Wordl Time.
But I found pictures, and especially, this one, taken by Fx, which illustrates my thoughts:
Here, we are speaking about a Vacheron watch, and not a very affordable one.
I would have liked to see a more nicely decorated rotor, I zm not impressed by the shape of the bridges, I don't even see an anglage on them, by the way, the finishing is way below what I am expecting from a Vacheron watch, it feels industrial, when I am looking for some delicate, sensual, interesting, at least, efforts on the decoration and on the finishings.
I don't like the Mercator movement, but it looks better finished, at least.
Here it is:
You see? The finish and the decoration are more sensual, here.
Technically speaking, I have nothing to say against this WT Calibre, but once again, this is not the idea I have of a Vacheron Watch...
To me, Vacheron is synonym of " Exquisite ", refined, well, to not say, superiorly finished and decorated... The big difference between a Vacheron and another watch from another brand.
Best,
Nicolas. This message has been edited by amanico on 2012-01-05 11:43:35
Vacheron Constantin 2011 Watch Year in Review
As we close out the 2011 calendar year and start looking forward to the novelties that will be presented in Geneva in just a few week’s time, let’s look back at all the new watches that Vacheron Constantin brought out this past year. The 2011 watch year g...
I absolutely love your post...
you have shown pictures and described every timepiece launched by VC last year (2011). I absolutely love the World Time and the Patrimony Contemporaine Perpetual Calendar. Wonder what is in store during 2012 !
We'll see enough what 2012 has in store for us!
As a collector I like having so many nice watches to choose from. Bill
2011 was not a year for me.
On all the watches released this year, I still have to see the WG Aronde in the flesh, and I didn't like the World Time. Moreover, I don't get how a dressy, elegant watch can get a 40 mm +++ case. I'm deeply in love with Vacheron, which I consider as one ...
Amanico, why did'nt you like the WT? Dont you think it is...
...about time that a watchmaker released a WT which covered those countries that fall in quarter / half time zones? PP's WT maybe more 'poetic' and Lange's WT i dont understand at all. I think the world we live in today is different; it is one of globalis...
Don't like the case, which is far from being sensual, and I hate this automatic movement.
A great watch, in my opinion, is a nice case ( which is not the case on the VC... Have a look at the profile, it is thick and graceless, once again, in my opinion ) a nice dial ( which may be the best part of this watch, but how busy! ) and a fine movemen...
I saw the WT only once at an HL dinner, and that also briefly.
I have to see it once more to actually make up my mind. Among the current VC's being manufactured, which is your favourite?
The Chrono Malte, simple or perpetual calendar, was the last one
With the Patrimony Perpetual Calendar skeleton, and the RM Skeleton. I also loved and still lovce a lot the Mercator, and the Les Historiques Chrono. You see, I am an old school guy... Best, Nicolas.
RM Skeleton - do you mean the Les Cabinotiers Skeleton...
...Minute Repeater? If this is the one you are referring to, then I absolutely love it. Infact it is my laptop's desktop wallpaper, in PG. Do you like the Patrimony Traditionelle Manual (38mm with Caliber 4400)?
Yes. This RM Skeleton is just one of the finest watch I ever saw in mys short life.
As for the Traditionelle Manual 38 mm, yes, this is another nice one. But I would go for the JLC MUT, for much less than the VC Patrimony Cal 4400. Best, Nicolas.
Please explain your antipathy towards the VC automatic calibers
as I am baffled by it. Is it the shape of the bridges? The finishing? The technology? Bill
Ok, will try to elaborate.
I wanted to wait to be in Geneva to be able to take some pictures of the WT, to show you what I don't like with the autimatic calibre of the Wordl Time. But I found pictures, and especially, this one, taken by Fx, which illustrates my thoughts: Here, we a...
You're getting old ^^
Anglage are there. Not enough or not big enough? maybe. But I get the industrial feeling you can have but I really like the finish of this automatic caliber. It is still far from a JLC Cheers Francois ( who can not resist to play even if he shouldn't ^^ )
Well for the difference in price between a 5 K euros JLC automatic movement and a 30 K +
VC Automatic movement, I am expecting more. To take another difference, it is not much better finished than a Cal 849 from JLC, and I find this last one more interesting, even if it is difficult to compare an automatic movement with a manual wind one. And...
Then what to think about a PP celestial?
Same thing, a nice automatic caliber with a complex module, and this is no more 30k... A scandal or a marvel? A marvellous scandal maybe ? Though it is the 240 with a complex module, it is one in the top of the dreamlist. cheers Francois (going back to my...
Since you took this example...
I love the dial, the concept of the watch, but certainly not to see a modular Cal 240 on such a watch. To me it is a no go, and I changed my mind on tis watch because of that. Best, Gameboy Cisco. Nicolas
Same issue with new 1120
Hope you don't mind my intrusion into the conversation, but I have the same issue with the newly re-issued caliber 1120 and it's rather chunky rotor design. Sure it's pierced with the Maltese Cross motif, but rather clumsy in comparison to previous VC 112...
Can you provide a side by side comparison
of the two versions of the rotor you are speaking of, please? I'd love to see exactly what you mean. Best, Respo
Thanks, Dean. A few things...
I knew you'd come through with the requested images. You are a great resource! You and almost everyone else on this forum know far more about the finishing of movements than I do, to be sure, and I do see that the rotor on the 1120/2 is prettier and perha...
Thanks Dean
The engraved rotor is very nice, and typical from some earlier productions (remind me some Breguet "a long time ago"...), The new is not bad and quite coherent with the caliber. Except the rotor I don't see on the photo many differences of finishing, a ni...
2011 was a great year for VC
My personal favorites are the Aronde, of course, and the OS Perpetual Calendar. I love the concept of the World Time and look forward to future variations, especially in white gold. And while having the caliber 1120 resurrected is also wonderful, I'm just...
Having AUTOMATIC on the EP Patrimony Contemporaine
Self Winding would distinguish it from the EP 81180, but then it loses some of the cleanness that is the hallmark of the Contemporaine deisgn. I don't mind the PT950 on the dial of my watch. Bill
I love that line...
..."I don't mind the PT950 on the dial of my watch." It must be nice to write that. Best, respo
I would encourage every fan of Vacheron Constantin watches
to have the opportunity to write that!! I hope you'll get the chance! Bill
Thanks for the 2012 warm up!
The Aronde is so sexy. The Overseas Perpetual Chronograph is a wonderful addition to the Overseas line, and I wonder if it will be offered as a regular production model. The NY Boutique version has to be seen in person to truly appreciate how stunning the...
So many great watches!
I can't see how VC will top 2011 with their 2012 novelties, but I'm sure they have a handful of great new watches to show us in a couple of weeks. I agree with you about the caliber 1400 being one of the prettiest movements out there. The winding feel is ...