Freccero
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Even though it is overpriced it costs less than the 5170 and the VC is in platinum...
Aug 23, 2017,07:31 AM
Regarding the readability I agree that sometimes it could be a bit difficult.
Best.
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A few remarks about an underrated beauty.
By: Freccero : August 22nd, 2017-13:32
In the past days a particular watch returned in my mind after reading Alkiro's article about the best examples of lugs. It is the VC Historiques Cornes de Vache 1955. Now this watch is in my opinion really astonishing and VC had a great idea in reissuing ...
Perfect π
By: Alkiro1 : August 22nd, 2017-14:02
Best wishes Alkiro
All 3 are lovely
By: Joepny : August 22nd, 2017-15:44
but the Datograph was a revolution that shook up the old Swiss boys club and for that reason it is the top chronograph in my mind. Also I do prefer its sporty heft compared to the dressiness of the PP and VC. Probably the more apt comparison is the Lange ...
Thank you for your thoughts!
By: Freccero : August 23rd, 2017-00:42
You said well the Datograph was a Revolution in Swiss watchmaking. Instead of the Dato I could have put the 1815 chrono... yes but I didi not because it is a bit more affordable than the other two and I wanted to compare the VC with its most direct compet...
I love all three but if I could only own one
By: emcquillan : August 22nd, 2017-16:56
it would be the datograph. I love both the original icon and the up/down as it sits more comfortably on the wrist and any follow up to the icon was going to be controversial. In my opinion reflection will be kind to the up/down. Best,
I like the Vacheron
By: sham1 : August 22nd, 2017-19:45
because of its lugs that you rightly pointed out and its more modest 38.5mm watch case. I know the datograph is a cult watch that many tend to compare with other chronographs but in my opinion, a more attractive and better value watch from Lange is the 18...
Thank you for input sham1!
By: Freccero : August 23rd, 2017-01:21
As I also said before I could have put the 1815 chrono in the comparison but it has slightly lower price than the other three and since I wanted to compare watches that was on the same price level I opted for the Dato. Now I absolutely agree with that the...
It's not underrated, it's simply overpriced!
By: piccolochimico (aka dsgalaxy1) : August 23rd, 2017-04:14
How come VC + Hodinkee sold the LE even before the watch was officially shown? Maybe 'cause the (supposed to be) collectors pay heavy money for PP only? Anyway, Datograph 1 gen is still my holy grail; superb smooth pusher plus big date; i'd sell my bro fo...
lwhat a lovely trio!
By: Watcholic_id : August 22nd, 2017-19:58
maybe i'm the minority here because my favorite duo is the VC & PP 5170 (with pulsometer). and if i could only choose one, it would be the PP5170. thanks
πͺπ»πͺπ»same team!
By: Freccero : August 23rd, 2017-01:23
I would choose the 5170 too but with black dial but right after there is the stunning VC. Best.
Thank you for the input, my friend.
By: Freccero : August 23rd, 2017-01:42
I did not put the 1815 because it is in a different price range but I generally prefer the 1815 rather than the Dato. Best.
Tribute to Journe himself tooππΌ
By: Freccero : August 24th, 2017-03:09
However I think that Journe's release was daring but the risks were lower than Lange's ones with the Zeitwerk. Best.
Exactly! π
By: Alkiro1 : August 24th, 2017-03:43
Best wishes Alkiro
I love this VC.
By: zabreg1 Mr White : August 23rd, 2017-03:03
I have been flirting with it for months. The size is perfect, those lugs are gorgeous, and it just looks so great overall. But, it has its downsides also. First, IMO, it is very difficult to read. There is no contrast between the dial and the hands. Also,...
Oh, don't get me wrong, I love this watch.
By: zabreg1 Mr White : August 23rd, 2017-10:46
And when I say expensive, please realize that it has to be looked at through the lens of the existing collection of each individual. I would rather spend this elsewhere as I already have a dato, which makes it expensive to me personally.
I got your point.
By: Freccero : August 24th, 2017-02:56
As you said it is purely a matter of taste. If somebody likes this model a lot he spends for it but for somebody, for which this is a "just" a lovely chrono it could be too expensive. Thanks for the input! Best.
VC!
By: shafran : August 23rd, 2017-03:28
I had the first generation dato, and while beautiful , the thickness vs diameter ratio never made it feel as nice as others I have owned. I too prefer the 1815 chrono. If forced for a choice between the three, I think the VC then 5170(which was my all tim...
no Dato
By: Gelato Monster : August 23rd, 2017-04:05
While Dato is amazing but the thickness is too much. VC Cornes de Vache is perfect dimension with one of the most beautiful lug. P5170P would be the best and not so common
5170 for me
By: traineract : August 23rd, 2017-07:32
Inhouse Patek manual chronograph. Future classic. Im done
Absolutely agree!
By: Freccero : August 23rd, 2017-07:37
The 5170 will be very sought-after! Best.
Tough choices. PP5170G
By: crown comfort : August 23rd, 2017-07:59
I personally would prefer the VC Les Historique, ideally in Platinum and Salmon dial over the Cornes de Vaches. If Dato, then without the Up/Down, but I agree with some others, the Dato is heavy and more like a sports chrono, compared with the VC or the P...
Yes the Les Historique is a great choice, my friend.
By: Freccero : August 23rd, 2017-08:14
Regarding the PP 5170 is the only pure chrono Patek is currently offering otherwise you have to add a PC(5270 for example), a split second (the 5370) or an annual calendar (5960). Best.
The CDV really impressed me
By: kykw : August 23rd, 2017-09:24
I first saw the platinum CDV in Watches and wonders 2015 here in Hong Kong (RIP to the exhibition), that's easily my favorite piece in the entire exhibition. The case was sensual, the blue on the dial popped, and I really liked that VC had upgraded from t...
Thank you very much for your thoughts!
By: Freccero : August 24th, 2017-01:00
As many things also the size of the Dato is a matter of taste. Regarding the VC the case is wonderful and my favourite version is the platinum one. However the gold version is not bas either, a bit more classic. The 5170 is the essence of pure chronograph...
Visually...
By: KMII : August 24th, 2017-04:25
I find the VC the most alluring of the three.
the sequence you show them is correct
By: social1 : August 25th, 2017-04:37
the VC's lines are by far the best design and even though quality wise is tough to separate them I would keep the ranking the way it is...
My views:
By: Jurry : August 26th, 2017-09:17
The Lange is beautiful yet personally I find the design to become slightly outdated. The PP is a superb watch, gorgeous timeless but overpriced The VC is stunning, but VC could have been smarter with marketing-pricing-distribution Is there a winner? No, a...