The King Seiko 5245-6000 - some more details

Aug 22, 2016,05:24 AM
 

I got the 5245-6000 some two months ago as my first vintage Seiko. In addition it has been my first King Seiko and my second Special (got the Grand Seiko SBGH035 first) smile


Now two months and a macro lens later, here are some more shots and impressions. 

The watch works well with a slightly more formal attire - say business casual for instance. The dimensions are pretty good for wearing with a shirt, with both the 35mm case size and the relatively thin case easily slipping under the cuff when required. The dial is covered with lots of text but back in the day it was a feature for Seiko to be an automatic, officially certified chronometer (and I believe this could have been the last Seiko to wear this description, as far as I know). On the bottom is the applied KS logo, the Special logo and the Hi Beat specification. This is perhaps slightly misleading, as the 5245 movement only beats at 28,800 vph but at the time several manufacturers (including JLC) used this designation for 4 Hz watches. 



Here a macro of the case back. The 6000 case is a 'front loader', with the movement being removed from the front of the monocoque case - designed in this way for improved water resistance. It comes with some instructions as to movement removal and how to operate the fast movement adjustment mechanism (the watch can be regulated with a screw without opening the case - a pretty cool feature). There is also an engraving for the original owner but I do not read Japanese so cannot tell what it says...



Here a picture of the crown and the side of the case. The crown has a KS logo applied and is relatively easy to operate. What you cannot do with it, though, is to wind the watch. So like with the Seiko 5 watches a lasso movement is required for the initial charging... The setting of the time is pretty standard fare and the watch has a quick set mechanism for the date.



Here a dial detail to show the linen finish, the applied hour indices and KS logo. The dial looks impeccable when looked at with the naked eyebut shows the 45 years of age when viewed under a macro lens. Decent but far from NOS.



Here a picture showing the hands. As popular at the time with a black line at the centre of the hour and minute hands, and a plain seconds hand. The finish and execution of the hands are a lot better than my skills with lighting the macro shot wink



Here the top of the dial, with the poorly reattached Seiko logo. Not very visible with the naked eye but something I intend to get fixed at the next service, since I cannot stop thinking about it since I've seen it under a macro wink Some 'dusting' around the date window would not go amis, either...



Last but not least a Blomman style shot of the complete watch. While this has been my first vintage Seiko, it is most certainly not the last. I quite like it overall and the details - even if the watch is far from impeccable - are quite appealing in my humble opinion. smile



Thanks for viewing!


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Marvelous review amigo

 
 By: Ares501 - Mr Green : August 22nd, 2016-06:11
You are really pushing envelope Thanks for enjoyable read and preparation of great work Seiko is doing for years Cordially yours D

Thanks a lot Damjan!

 
 By: KMII : August 22nd, 2016-06:25
Glad you like it - more to come with time

From one old Chronometer to another

 
 By: cazalea : August 22nd, 2016-07:41
Thanks for your photo analysis. (Dust!) Cazalea ...  

Thank you Cazalea!

 
 By: KMII : August 22nd, 2016-08:28
Yours - as a Credor - is of course in a more elevated league Still need to get myself one but one step at a time - the next Seiko in September and then we'll see!

Thank you HS111!

 
 By: KMII : August 22nd, 2016-08:29
I think you may have seen it at our last GTG Thanks a lot for your appreciation and as said above, hope it gets some vintage company soon!

KS

 
 By: Seamaster2254 : August 22nd, 2016-10:50
Man, that is a beautiful watch. Can you tell me from which website you purchased this beauty? There should be few (Japanese??) websites (in English) from which one can order overhauled vintage King Seiko and/or Grand Seiko pieces. But i cannot find any of... 

It was actually a German website...

 
 By: KMII : August 22nd, 2016-11:30
Look for it at Chrono24 - should you not find it, I will PM you a link. Glad you like it!

FYI, the engraved "Kanji" (Chinese Characters) on the case back

 
 By: Luis6 : August 22nd, 2016-16:47
says "Snow Brand Milk Products Co., Ltd.", which is one of the (if not The) largest dairy companies in Japan.

Thank you Luis!

 
 By: KMII : August 22nd, 2016-21:12
I will then post the upper engraving, too - I guess it says something along the lines \'for 30 years of service \' Once again thanks for the translation!

Here's the upper back...

 
 By: KMII : August 23rd, 2016-00:39
...  

Under your tutelage...

 
 By: KMII : August 23rd, 2016-01:07
I will even learn Japanese

Although I speak relatively OK Japanese for a non-Japanese,

 
 By: Luis6 : August 23rd, 2016-05:14
I still suggest you to learn it properly from native speakers like Ken.

However much I'd like to...

 
 By: KMII : August 23rd, 2016-05:50
It will take more time and effort than I can invest at the moment. Maybe there will be a job related need in a couple of years, in which case I would love to learn to speak the language Thanks again for your translation!

:) [nt]

 
 By: KMII : August 23rd, 2016-05:59

Great review

 
 By: Hagen : September 18th, 2016-11:03
That really is a treasure you have the. Fortunately, it hasn't been polished nor the dial refinished, and the patina it has developed looks perfect. I have had a couple of vintage pieces myself, although not Grand Seiko or Seiko, but never really felt com... 

Thanks for your kind words Hagen :)

 
 By: KMII : September 18th, 2016-19:40
So far so good, although I am yet to find out where to get my vintage KS looked at. Not sure the Seiko Boutique caters to vintage pieces, too, but worth a try

Japanese

 
 By: phil.houses : February 22nd, 2018-18:17
The Japanese characters says Snow Brank Milk Incorporated. It is a famous dairy company in Japan

Thanks a lot! [nt]

 
 By: KMII : February 23rd, 2018-12:37

sorry

 
 By: phil.houses : February 28th, 2018-18:23
should have been Snow Brand Milk....Do you still have this King seiko? I have seen this a lot in Japan for sale

I still do :)

 
 By: KMII : March 2nd, 2018-22:03
Not at all great at letting watches go - all still with me All the ones you’ve seen of the 5245-6000 model or were others used, too?

seen and bought

 
 By: phil.houses : March 6th, 2018-08:09
I've seen 5245-6000 model--- around 3 or 4 for sale in online sites.. saw one 5246-6000 (day/date) but wasn't able to buy it. I got a 5245-6010 - i think the dial is white instead of fabric like and still looking to buy another 5245-6000. Another one in a... 

Very interesting...

 
 By: KMII : March 6th, 2018-08:11
I have to say I rather like the linen dial but of course some diversity is always welcome

got it

 
 By: phil.houses : March 9th, 2018-00:42
Got the 5245-6010 and it is also linen dial (a bit whiter when compared to the 5245-6000 (looking at the pictures), so i am not sure what the difference is. Will update you in a few more days when I can compare.. What is the case size for you? maybe the 6... 

difference

 
 By: phil.houses : March 10th, 2018-19:28
The difference in the 5245-6000 vs 5245-6010 is on the case, 6010 looks a bit smaller because of cut angles on the side. I was reading a bit on the history of the King Seiko and found in one of the forums... The 5246-6010 and the 5256-8010 were probably t...  

Thanks a lot for clearing this up...

 
 By: KMII : March 11th, 2018-00:27
And for the comparison pictures! So any others in the pipeline?

back case

 
 By: phil.houses : March 11th, 2018-23:51
The back case shape or cut angle is also a bit different.

yes

 
 By: phil.houses : March 12th, 2018-04:16
6000 and 6010 are both monocoque

Thanks for clarifying, Phil!

 
 By: KMII : March 15th, 2018-13:30
Glad to be able to learn more about the series!