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A bit before my mod time...

 

But I’d say definitely great horological value at the level it goes, just like so many Jerome Lambert Montblancs. Not one that is likely to appreciate with time and the sub counters are a tad close but it provides a very interesting complication at a spectacular price. I guess it’s definitely not a piece one gets for signalling, much more one you get for yourself. But if you are not looking for peer approval first and foremost it is certainly a very sound proposition.

As for derivative designs, we are all partially to blame - victims and perpetrators at the same time if you wish. There’s often debate that watch manufacturers delve on the past and dabble in limited editions too much but then we mostly go out and buy those pieces as opposed to the more innovative, risky ones. Shamelessly generalising here but if we want the behaviour of the watch manufacturers to change it’s a voting with the wallet that will do it smile

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The Value of a Quartz Perpetual Watch

 
By: cazalea : June 14th, 2018-16:30
It's always on the right time (more or less) and it's always on the right day and date. Even on a day like today with lovely weather, lovely Mustang across the parking lot acting as eye candy to catch more viewers ... it's fun to have a watch on my wrist ...  

One question...

 
By: KMII : June 14th, 2018-22:19
How do you set the perpetual calendar? Looking like a very fun day out, too

The calendar is programmed into the Seiko 8F56 movement

 
By: cazalea : June 15th, 2018-08:51
It's done at the factory and the watch has a 10-year battery, so for most folks, it's done once and for all. But if you need to do it later, first you put in the battery, then using tweezers (or a tiny "jumper cable") on the back of the movement, you do t...  

But surely ( I know you hate it when I call you Shirley) Caz...

 
By: halgedahl : June 15th, 2018-11:59
You must have a mechanical perpetual in your stable. Perhaps not one that can be advanced forward AND backward, as in the UN Ludwig. That would set you back a bit. But wait. To whom as I speaking??? Of course you have such a watch. Then why not let us see... 

I do have a perpetual at the moment

 
By: cazalea : June 15th, 2018-14:26
You can start reading here: IWC GST Series Click Here and then you can read about the Perpetual : Click Here for 10 YEARS WITH ONE WATCH and then you can check this thread in HOME Cheers, Mike ...  

Many thanks. Expected as much.

 
By: halgedahl : June 16th, 2018-06:50
It has been interesting to me to learn that the PC is not so new a complication as, for example, the auto-chrono. And a perpetual stands, in my brief collecting career, as "the one that got away." When the Montblanc came on the market a couple years ago i...  

Thanks for sharing this fascinating story of yours!

 
By: KMII : June 16th, 2018-09:01
It does sometimes happen that you’re looking or saving up for a watch and then it’s gone weeks or days before you are ready. Had this two or three times and always kicked myself over it. Still, it’s a long game and while some pieces will not return at the... 

How kind of you! Many thanks for your encouragement.

 
By: halgedahl : June 16th, 2018-10:49
As moderator, though… What do you think of the piece? And what have other member's experiences been? It still seems to me a respectable entry into the market. Yet... I know of—and do tire a bit of—one watch company's echoing of another's designs.

A bit before my mod time...

 
By: KMII : June 16th, 2018-13:45
But I’d say definitely great horological value at the level it goes, just like so many Jerome Lambert Montblancs. Not one that is likely to appreciate with time and the sub counters are a tad close but it provides a very interesting complication at a spec... 

Well said. And thanks for responding.

 
By: halgedahl : June 16th, 2018-16:12
Yes, I own one such derivative—the Heritage Chronometrie Ultra Slim. What the heck, it's a nicely designed watch with a tried & true movement. Mine keeps excellent time, is always mistaken for a quartz due to its slender nature (which makes it fun to ... 

"Only" accurate 20 seconds in a year

 
By: cazalea : June 15th, 2018-15:59
For readers who haven't been around a long long time, Ron is a bit of a high-accuracy quartz buff, and this level of in-accuracy is appalling to his group of perfectionists. I've also been on the fringe of "desperately needing" that level of accuracy, and...