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Interesting - not sure yet how I feel.
Of course there's always the option of going local and having a watchmaker service the watch and keep the original movement. In my experience that's cheaper and faster than sending it in most of the time. Ok don't know if I view the movement as being the soul of the watch.. But I can see how others might...
I think if for example one of my GSs were to go into service and for the same cost, GS were to offer to replace the movement for an upgrade (say from 3 day PR to 5 day PR, I'd be pretty happy). At the same time, I've been on this and various forums for a long time, and I've read many stories about watches going in for routine service and coming back in worse shape than they went out - only then needing to be resent, so if the process of swapping out movements reduces the risk of a bad service experience, I think I'm also down for that.
A new movement??
Guys, my BB 58 began to loose time a while ago. Ca. 30 sec. a day. After a while I took it to the AD and they said “Ok, we replace the whole clockwork”. Took it to another AD - same story. Not that it would cost me a whole lot of money, but the principle ...
A competent watchmaker will fix the problem in half an hour,!
Unless something really terrible has happened. The MT 5402 is no different from any other old or new Rolex/Tudor/ETA movement. Any of its parts can be simply replaced, fixed, restored, or adjusted. That ADs prefer to replace the entire movement because it...
I would think so too Simone.
But then why chnge the whole movement? It says a lot about the quality in the first place doesn´t it?
Plenty of reasons.
And , for me, it says very little about the quality of the movement. Is the watch still under warranty?
Don't know if this is of other members' interest, but,
Do you know any reliable watchmaker near your town?!
As a BB58
Owner I was saddened to hear this, I just assumed that they would just repair the movement. I wonder what happens to the ‘old’ movement 🤔. Given that most parts likely remain in full working order it doesn’t sound very sustainable….
I had the same reaction at first but it actually makes a lot of practical sense.
I think the issue is the clash with the image they have created in their marketing. These watches are marketed as adventure companions - Climbing mountains, diving in the ocean, etc, your trusty Tudor is right there with you. The marketing is all about bu...
Sorry! ;-)
On that my Tudor is like a Swatch. In a few months I will take my MT79030N to the watchmaker and I wiill post about the whole experience.
Hunh... They not similar in that they are both mass produced watches.
And both brands opt to replace rather than repair. They do have similarities. That doesn't mean a Tudor is bad (Swatch makes great watches after all). It's is just an acknowledgement of what it is.
Most Swatches (I owned myself quite a few),
Cannot be repaired and are made entirely of plastic. I agree that both companies make mass-produced watches but to a completely different extent... The point here, I guess, is what a company which does not sell mass-produced watches would have done with L...
Exactly Simone. Who else would do this? And at what point does the cost-benefit analysis rule over customer relations to the watch?
Well well I’m a watch romantic and it was just a let down. Didn’t expect it from Tudor.
I'm romantic too, Lars!
But I accept to own a 2018 watch, not a 7924 from 1958! Search a good watchmaker and your love wiil be reborn. Or even write Tudor. Forget about the ADs!
Or you may prefer to sell the 58,
Buy a Daniels Four-Minute Tourbillon and go swimming with it! No one gets upset!
I agree with the “Swap of the soul” point.
As I mentioned I am a romantic and it just rubbed me the totally wrong way to get the same message from two dif. AD’s “We just put in a new movement”
I totally get it. I have often romanticized my watches.
But the cold reality is a watch doesn't have a soul. Be it a Swatch, Tudor, Patek or Daniels. What is also fun to consider is that a Tudor owner may get upset with their watch contrasted with a Swatch, but I don't believe any Daniels owners would be. Food...
It sounds like there was something wrong with that. Their job as an AD is to make you happy and not disappoint.
I'm sorry you had a poor experience there.
Interesting points
here, on the mass produced point, given that Rolex also makes 1 million ++ watches a year, they are also fairly high volume, but I think we would all be surprised if we started getting a new movement if a screw came loose….. so I guess the question is whe...
They ate absolutely mass produced.
And I would be surprised if they didn't adopt the same policy as Tudor.
Wow! That comes as a shock…
Although I can’t say I am too surprised, as I’ve known about this practice in other brands. In the case of Tudor makes me wonder if they are having trouble finding, and or, developing watchmakers for their after sales service, therefore just going with th...
Interesting points Alex.
I need a new diver. I have my eyes on the Planet Ocean 39.5 mm. (Don´t think Omega will swap the movement ). But I have my eyes on so many divers.
Is it possible the replaced movements go back to Tudor where they are refurbished and then re-used as service movements?
Just like certain automobile parts, computers, and other devices that are replaced in the field and later restored for subsequent reuse. That would imply some kind of logic to the repair The thought that movements are basically trash is an unpleasant tho...
Yes agreed, it would make sense if it was re-used for service use.
Otherwise it is too strange.
So this seems to be a "well-known" practice...
So the only movements/watches not at risk of this seem to be "high end" watches (or movements) or ones with a display case back (where you might be able to see the movement serial number). Slightly shocking maybe...but an interesting aspect of this indust...
Well I have
the BB58 925 with the clear case back, but I assume same treatment may apply…
display back
So if you can see the serial number, it's likely they'll fix the movement, rather than replace it (according to the article).
Interesting - not sure yet how I feel.
Of course there's always the option of going local and having a watchmaker service the watch and keep the original movement. In my experience that's cheaper and faster than sending it in most of the time. Ok don't know if I view the movement as being the ...
You have some valid points.
To me the watch is a mix between the design, the feel, dial and of course the movement. It is a whole. If you remove an essential part like the movement then it is not the same watch any more. Not to me anyways. Local and well established watch maker took...
So he would be happy
Servicing an ‘old one’ maybe it’s a sign to get a vintage Tudor diver…
To be honest, I haven't had my watches too long. If it was a piece maybe I held for decades and they wanted to simply gut it out and replace the insides, might leave a bad taste in my mouth too. At least now I know to adjust my expectations..
That's too bad about the inability to have it serviced locally - I have always assumed the new movements could be serviced with ease but given that watch companies have been known to engage in anti-comptetive behavior by limiting parts accounts or using p...
