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Deviation from -2 ~ + 2 seconds/ day rate accuracy

 
 By: BluNotte : April 12th, 2023-03:31
Hi all! It's been a while now, and trust everyone is doing fine. Just a quick question as i cannot seem to find the answer anywhere else, and i'd thought for sure my friends over here would help, does anyone know, or have your own experience, that since R... 

On the second point, many automatic Seikos cannot be wound by hand.

 
 By: mkvc : April 12th, 2023-03:49
If you want them to run, you have to wind them by moving them so their automatic winders turn. The ability to wind manually is apparently an extra "complication." Seiko therefore makes sure to specify which watches have it.

Thank you for confirming this!

 
 By: BluNotte : April 12th, 2023-04:01
I did seem to read somewhere before as well that Seiko(s), vs Grand Seiko(s), that for the Automatic Seiko(s) as you stated that they cannot be manually wound too, but I initially did not really believe it back then, owing to the fact further that I own n... 

Normally, no.

 
 By: amanico : April 12th, 2023-06:05
After some years, not necessarily 5 years, maybe a bit more, yes, it may be less accurate. The sign of a revision. A second factor you have to keep in mind: The Magnetization. Demagnetize your watch regularly, as it is surrounded by magnetic fields everyw... 

Interesting comment about demagnetizing the watch as I find myself using it more often these days

 
 By: Chronometer (aka yacomino) : April 12th, 2023-07:01
Maybe I am less careful with my electronics…but did not think about making the watch “aged” over time… good to keep in mind

Merci for the reminder!

 
 By: BluNotte : April 12th, 2023-07:05
Mon ami! Of course I have NOT forgotten about the dreadful magnets surrounding me! Yes, now whilst i do not think so that my submariner has been magnetised, because it is running just slightly slower at -2 ~ -3 secs/ day now, which I know is actually NOTH... 

LOL!!!

 
 By: amanico : April 13th, 2023-06:45

Sooner than I thought although mine might be an outlier..

 
 By: Echi : April 12th, 2023-08:00
Got my Explorer back in 2020 from a guy who decided it wasn’t for him. Between him getting the watch from the AD and into my hands a few weeks later, it was running within chronometer specs but not within +2/-2. I had RSC check it. Came back a week later,... 

Oh!

 
 By: BluNotte : April 12th, 2023-09:22
Hi Echi, Thanks for sharing your experience! Ah so despite the Explorer being from since they already implemented the -2 ~ + 2 tolerance, so give or take i'd say perhaps about 2 years then all in all from the moment the 1st owner got it from the AD, up ti... 

Ah ok! Well thats even better then, that you could get it quickly fixed!

 
 By: BluNotte : April 12th, 2023-09:37
I mean the sub that i am talking about now is already almost 3 years old, it is doing a -2 ~ -3, which as mentioned at the start is just me being me and my overly concerning self on top notch rate accuracy. We all really should though appreciate these mec... 

I would have thought that logically it would be the opposite? That they would run slower

 
 By: BluNotte : April 12th, 2023-14:53
This is due to the fact that the oils in the gearings gets tougher, hence they create more friction, and hence have a "braking" effect so to speak to cause the entire gear train to run "rougher" and thus slower? But then again this could be the cause of s... 

Friction reduces the amplitude ...

 
 By: Marcus Hanke : April 12th, 2023-17:43
... and if the anchor is travelling a shorter path, it oscillates quicker, hence moving the hands faster. Marcus

Thank you for this reminder insight Marcus!

 
 By: BluNotte : April 13th, 2023-00:51
Trust that evertthing is well with you! Regards Stephen

I've had my datejust for a little over 3 years

 
 By: andrea~ : April 12th, 2023-14:37
It's still performing extremely well. If you keep the watch wound, the way in which you wind it plays no role in the timekeeping aspect. Don't wind a Rolex every day, because by doing that you have to screw and unscrew the crown repeatedly, which will wea... 

Thanks for the reassuring advice Andrea!

 
 By: BluNotte : April 12th, 2023-15:03
May i ask by your datejust performing extremely well, what is it's rate accuracy over a 24 hour period that you notice? (if you are even keeping track of it?)