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So this seems to be a "well-known" practice...
Oct 15, 2023,19:26 PM
https://nobswatchmaker.com/blog/is-your-watch-getting-movement-swapped-during-repairs
So the only movements/watches not at risk of this seem to be "high end" watches (or movements) or ones with a display case back (where you might be able to see the movement serial number).
Slightly shocking maybe...but an interesting aspect of this industry.
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A new movement??
By: LarsG : October 15th, 2023-08:14
Guys, my BB 58 began to loose time a while ago. Ca. 30 sec. a day. After a while I took it to the AD and they said “Ok, we replace the whole clockwork”. Took it to another AD - same story. Not that it would cost me a whole lot of money, but the principle ...
A competent watchmaker will fix the problem in half an hour,!
By: Mary Anny : October 15th, 2023-09:25
Unless something really terrible has happened. The MT 5402 is no different from any other old or new Rolex/Tudor/ETA movement. Any of its parts can be simply replaced, fixed, restored, or adjusted. That ADs prefer to replace the entire movement because it...
I would think so too Simone.
By: LarsG : October 15th, 2023-10:49
But then why chnge the whole movement? It says a lot about the quality in the first place doesn´t it?
Plenty of reasons.
By: Mary Anny : October 15th, 2023-11:10
And , for me, it says very little about the quality of the movement. Is the watch still under warranty?
As a BB58
By: Drek : October 15th, 2023-11:18
Owner I was saddened to hear this, I just assumed that they would just repair the movement. I wonder what happens to the ‘old’ movement 🤔. Given that most parts likely remain in full working order it doesn’t sound very sustainable….
Sorry! ;-)
By: Mary Anny : October 15th, 2023-12:52
On that my Tudor is like a Swatch. In a few months I will take my MT79030N to the watchmaker and I wiill post about the whole experience.
Most Swatches (I owned myself quite a few),
By: Mary Anny : October 15th, 2023-13:12
Cannot be repaired and are made entirely of plastic. I agree that both companies make mass-produced watches but to a completely different extent... The point here, I guess, is what a company which does not sell mass-produced watches would have done with L...
I'm romantic too, Lars!
By: Mary Anny : October 15th, 2023-17:05
But I accept to own a 2018 watch, not a 7924 from 1958! Search a good watchmaker and your love wiil be reborn. Or even write Tudor. Forget about the ADs!
I agree with the “Swap of the soul” point.
By: LarsG : October 15th, 2023-16:00
As I mentioned I am a romantic and it just rubbed me the totally wrong way to get the same message from two dif. AD’s “We just put in a new movement”
I totally get it. I have often romanticized my watches.
By: BigFatPauli : October 15th, 2023-16:33
But the cold reality is a watch doesn't have a soul. Be it a Swatch, Tudor, Patek or Daniels. What is also fun to consider is that a Tudor owner may get upset with their watch contrasted with a Swatch, but I don't believe any Daniels owners would be. Food...
Interesting points
By: Drek : October 15th, 2023-14:58
here, on the mass produced point, given that Rolex also makes 1 million ++ watches a year, they are also fairly high volume, but I think we would all be surprised if we started getting a new movement if a screw came loose….. so I guess the question is whe...
Wow! That comes as a shock…
By: AlexSunrise : October 15th, 2023-17:04
Although I can’t say I am too surprised, as I’ve known about this practice in other brands. In the case of Tudor makes me wonder if they are having trouble finding, and or, developing watchmakers for their after sales service, therefore just going with th...
Interesting points Alex.
By: LarsG : October 15th, 2023-17:20
I need a new diver. I have my eyes on the Planet Ocean 39.5 mm. (Don´t think Omega will swap the movement ). But I have my eyes on so many divers.
So this seems to be a "well-known" practice...
By: Joe90 : October 15th, 2023-19:26
So the only movements/watches not at risk of this seem to be "high end" watches (or movements) or ones with a display case back (where you might be able to see the movement serial number). Slightly shocking maybe...but an interesting aspect of this indust...
Yeah seems like it.
By: LarsG : October 15th, 2023-20:03
And something that´s flying under the radar
Well I have
By: Drek : October 15th, 2023-20:50
the BB58 925 with the clear case back, but I assume same treatment may apply…
display back
By: Joe90 : October 16th, 2023-19:25
So if you can see the serial number, it's likely they'll fix the movement, rather than replace it (according to the article).
Interesting - not sure yet how I feel.
By: JustaGuy : October 15th, 2023-19:58
Of course there's always the option of going local and having a watchmaker service the watch and keep the original movement. In my experience that's cheaper and faster than sending it in most of the time. Ok don't know if I view the movement as being the ...
You have some valid points.
By: LarsG : October 15th, 2023-20:08
To me the watch is a mix between the design, the feel, dial and of course the movement. It is a whole. If you remove an essential part like the movement then it is not the same watch any more. Not to me anyways. Local and well established watch maker took...
So he would be happy
By: Drek : October 15th, 2023-21:13
Servicing an ‘old one’ maybe it’s a sign to get a vintage Tudor diver…