How about: AD sells the watch to someone who wants it, and then the AD minds their own business?!

Dec 18, 2019,04:47 AM
 

If I buy something, and then decide to sell it, that’s surely my business? What makes Rolex so special?! If there were lots of Rolex watches on the second hand market, the prices wouldn’t be ridiculous.

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Retailers holding back papers

 
 By: Euroasianstar : December 18th, 2019-04:23
Many of you might know already but I just found it out: One prominent UK Rolex AD has been holding back the papers of Rolex sports models for one year to avoid speculative flipping. I was also affected when I bought my Rolex a few months ago. Anyway: good...  

Its not very nice. But imo much nicer than waiting 10 yrs

 
 By: Reuven Malter : December 18th, 2019-04:42
For a ss Rolex or having to pay a big premium! Thanks for the Information that things seem to have changed there!

How about: AD sells the watch to someone who wants it, and then the AD minds their own business?!

 
 By: W=N+1 : December 18th, 2019-04:47
If I buy something, and then decide to sell it, that’s surely my business? What makes Rolex so special?! If there were lots of Rolex watches on the second hand market, the prices wouldn’t be ridiculous.

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 By: Euroasianstar : December 18th, 2019-07:12

I had previously heard that asking the retailer to hold the papers was a sign of a customer intent not to flip.

 
 By: Bill : December 18th, 2019-05:30
There is also another side of the coin. Retailers can get onto hot water if there watches flood the market. Brands like Patek have recourse and may not supply that dealer. Setting aside the gouging of retailers it dos not seem terribly bad to keep the pap... 

Spoke with major store in France

 
 By: CastorKrieg : December 18th, 2019-05:53
They are aware of Rolex policy - from their point of view it's illegal as per French law, thus they are not doing it.

Interestingly....

 
 By: Euroasianstar : December 18th, 2019-07:11
...when I asked the dealer under which legal or corporate guidance they are holding my paper - after all it is a fully paid product, not a lease, and my property - he blamed it on Rolex policy. I then called Rolex UK to confirm this and they denied instru... 

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 By: amanico : December 18th, 2019-23:10

Completely agree, even with laws that may vary significantly from country to country, it's hardly to envision a scenario where it's legal for an AD to keep somebody's papers...

 
 By: FabR : December 18th, 2019-10:30
...unless a customer "voluntarily" surrenders those documents, that is ;-) Glad Rolex has taken this back, I'm sure they can easily can find alternative measures (for instance, increasing production of some basic SS models ;-) Cheers.

I'm okay with the retailer holding back papers...

 
 By: patrick_y : December 18th, 2019-11:16
Especially if I'm a newer client.

I'd possibly succumb. Well, I'd rather them sell the watch to me and hold back papers for a set amount of time (say twelve months) than the alternative of not selling the watch to me.

 
 By: patrick_y : December 19th, 2019-13:18
Although it certainly does imply that the retailer does not trust me. It's definitely strange and annoying for the retailer to do this strange thing, but I can't say that I would expressly not buy the watch.

It never bothered me at all. I got the watch they got what they

 
 By: Patekphilippecollector : December 19th, 2019-02:42
Wanted and I long ago got over being on a high horse over principal. There is no Buyer Power. In fact when iut cane to Patek on my 5131P I told them to keep my papers for 5 years....they handed them over...it is an EU privacy issue...something the UK wont...