a kind but nevertheless mandatory request ...

Dec 28, 2019,15:01 PM
 

to all people that ask my opinion on case and reference numbers between the lugs : I will not check anymore " sloped " pictures ( such as this one that btw shows a genuine number ) but only full front big ones .
it's not only a problem of big time spent trying to improve them but with sloped pics its very easy to be disguised ( as latest fakes are not so different from correct ones ).
I have also a couple of suggestions for the market section :
a) lugs pictures accepted only if full frontal
b) only the last two digits of the case number hidden , as it's not possible to check a case number in a serious way if you can see only the first 2 or 3 numbers.





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of course !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
 By: marcello pisani : April 15th, 2015-02:59
and btw also full plain pics of back ( inside and outside ) and movement too !!

Good point and yes...

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : April 15th, 2015-03:32
....we should pass this request whenever we see it.

I ask even more fundamental question

 
 By: MTF : April 15th, 2015-07:39
Marcello, Is it our job to "validate" numbers? If the query is genuine, it can be done at the sales room, auction house, trusted dealer. If it is from an unauthorised source, our advice is "Caveat Emptor" as we buy the "seller" and not the serial number. ... 

no it's not my job but .............

 
 By: marcello pisani : April 15th, 2015-10:36
if you receive like me everyday a flood of messages about watches to check .. well you must try to make this work easier and faster .

not to mention that ...

 
 By: marcello pisani : April 15th, 2015-10:42
everybody ( even the most thrusted and correct dealer /expert ) can well do a mistake ( I have seen many times this problem in the years ) so it's much better to check things twice ( at least ..... LOL LOL ) Rolex world is in fact very complicated : for e... 

What a tough topic

 
 By: MTF : April 16th, 2015-02:04
marcello So difficult a hobby about a brand with ostensibly a few simple classic models....undersea, floating on sea, flying in air, travel time, just date, date and day, dress handwind and antimagnetic. Did I miss anything? ;) I salute your perseverance ... 

I don't think its our job....however....

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : April 15th, 2015-23:08
.....when a "regular" forum member poses the occasional question, I think its fine to provide a guide. Where I do agree with you is where someone just uses the forum to validate their watch purchase and then never appears again until the next check is req... 

OK...thats fair. (nt)

 
 By: MTF : April 16th, 2015-02:04
:-) MTF

One point for me.

 
 By: Bill : April 15th, 2015-08:02
It does se hard to fake the numbers but with all the technology today it seems possible. So i try to look beyond the numbers at the case behind the numbers to see if there is anything that could indicate it had been tampered with. I did see such a case on... 

My dearest Marcello

 
 By: Iceman : April 16th, 2015-02:41
Appreciate your passion and patience. Words cannot discribe how greatful i am to you for sharing your knowledge. You never failed to reply and is always honest went in doubt. You are an aset to all of us who love this hobby so much. So i will be the first... 

+++++++1 .....I would also like to add.........

 
 By: Ray Nicol : April 17th, 2015-06:13
A big thank-you to Marcello who gives up his time to look over peoples watches and always answers email's because that's the sought of guy he is,. He still don't let me buy him lunch and some wine and beer ...... I will catch up with you very soon. I take... 

Radium Ray....

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : April 17th, 2015-07:01
.....i think you speak for most of us here!

Thanks Joe, I have a lot of time for Marcello as he.....

 
 By: Ray Nicol : April 17th, 2015-07:33
does for all of us here and other forums, for me it just goes to show you what a really good guy he is, giving his " FREE " time up to help others with the knowledge that he has accumulated over many years. The first time many years ago I asked his advice... 

thanks to you all guys !!!

 
 By: marcello pisani : April 17th, 2015-09:36
much appreciated !! btw I really love these " babies " so for me it's a pleasure to receive everyday many pictures and please believe me .. I myself continue to learn a lot !!

aha aha aha

 
 By: marcello pisani : April 17th, 2015-21:25
you naughty boy !! LOL LOL LOL