RM is certainly not the new FM.... there is a world of difference

between someone who basically copies old watch (mainly Patek) designs, uses and adapts off the shelf movements, and does little in the way of new material/new use research that pushes the boundaries of micro-mechanicals and material science.

Richard's watches are originals. True, there is a difference between the watches that use the Vaucher movements and the ones that are designed fro scratch at R&P, but then that is reflected in the price point. Apart from the watch case shape (tonneau) favoured by both, the similarities stop there.

There are a host of other factors I could potentially include, but will not do so as it will get me close to liable, but Richard's design and engineering mantra were revolutionary at the time. He certainly did not start out using 'off the shelf movements' and dial designs from yesteryear.

The price point you wish to entertain for a watch is a personal concern for the individual. Some find the watches overpriced; some just have to have one. But Richard's watches were and are originals and particular to his design and view of a watch.

Andrew H

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RM as the "new" FM

By: rakis73 : July 22nd, 2012-11:30

Hey guys - I read something in one of the postings on the forum and it had me thinking - I had eventually picked up the APs I wanted over a period of 10 years. It was a long journey to get my first and I relish the fact that when I finally got it, I did o...

i never buy my RMs from ADs and thus never pay retail price

By: Mohannad (aka Riddler) : July 22nd, 2012-13:36

Sorry to do this but on PuristsPro we dont discuss price or discounts. If you want to discuss price or discounts then private email. If you wish to discuss RM as the new FM, from a brand perspective, go right ahead. Thanks Andrew H

That was my post that you refer to!!

By: nautilus : July 23rd, 2012-05:50

To be clear I was only repeating what my dealer said to me when I said I wanted to buy one, but in addition to value he was also referring to the shape / design of the watch and also the fact that there is currently momentum behind the brand but little hi...

Yes you are!

By: rakis73 : July 23rd, 2012-09:19

Yes indeed - hope you don't mind that I wrote this out as you did inspire this! And I am also considering the RM11. I narrowed my thoughts to just the issue of value retention for what it is worth - I did overlook the comparison to FM and although I never...

It's the same for me

By: nautilus : July 23rd, 2012-10:37

Next for me I think will be either: RM 11, PP 5980 or ALS Datograph.

OVER PRICED

By: steventarmac : July 23rd, 2012-12:01

HAD THREE RM,S 005, 010,, 028 NONE KEPT TIME ,,LOST 20 SEC A DAY ,,DUST INSIDE EVERY CASE ,,YOUR RIGHT OVER PRICED JUST LIKE FM,S

brand loyalty

By: neogeo : July 24th, 2012-02:04

Incredible. Steventarmac must really like RM, otherwise he wouldn’t have bought 3 of them. Talk about brand loyalty. Yes, definitely overpriced, but that's part of what makes the...

The question was are rm,s overpriced,,, not like or dislike [nt]

By: steventarmac : July 24th, 2012-09:08

brand loyalty its a watch not my wife

RM vs FM

By: gasterus : July 24th, 2012-08:28

You must have liked RMs to previously owned 3 pieces. Sorry to hear you have issues with them. Mine has been working fine from the moment i bought it 3 years ago. From my point of view RM is different to FM. First, it is targeted to a different level of c...

The question was: RM the new FM? Not about being priced one way or another. You

By: 219 : July 24th, 2012-10:53

obviously like the designs and the watches. To own three suggests you do. That you had such a bad run of luck with your watches is regretable. What I dont understand is why you did not visit your local AD and chew his/her head off about it and get somethi...

I have also heard this same statement from a dealer.... [nt]

By: mrmar23 : July 25th, 2012-16:58

RM can't be the the FM

By: mams : July 23rd, 2012-23:38

I would say that Richard Mille watches are exceptional and produced to a very limited number per year.. it will never reach to the point of being compared to FM.. actually i would say that with the finishing and the details put in RM watches, no other wat...

Not about "overpriced"

By: rakis73 : July 24th, 2012-09:41

Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts and experiences. I was quite careful in how I raised this and I tried not to dabble on the issue of price but rather on the issue of retained value/perceived value as dictated by the free market. In a haza...

RM is certainly not the new FM.... there is a world of difference

By: 219 : July 24th, 2012-11:02

even Vaucher movements are actually great

By: Mohannad (aka Riddler) : July 25th, 2012-12:14

personally i think they are one of the best non complicated movements out there I've owned 3 Rm10s and all have performed outstandingly of course my previous RM004 was the best and definitely not comparable to the basics but still the 10s i truly think ar...