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Golden Ellipse

 

Read your post and responses you received. 

It can be a perplexing journey to your first Patek given your research regarding the variables you've encountered thus far.

Since you are in the US, I would encourage you to pursue obtaining your watch from an AD here in the US and one nearby if possible.  I say this because of your age and interest.  You would be the ideal client, meaning there is an opportunity to develop a long term relationship for you both.  As a former dealer, I encountered many folks in the same position you've described, who recognized and appreciated the quality Patek offered but like most starting out in life, it was a financial struggle.  I made every effort to help those to get to the watch they wanted and was successful in most cases.  It wasn't easy because Patek expects their check promptly, certainly sooner than the purchase price would be paid.   

Don't underestimate the value of the relationship with an AD.  It can be something in the future which you would look back and be thankful for.  It can be that important.  Of course money is an issue, but there is much more to buying a Patek than just writing a check and getting the lowest price.  That low price generally comes with baggage.  An AD 12,000 miles from you makes most things an AD can and should do for you more difficult and more importantly, inconvenient for you. 

I hope you find an AD who is willing to work with you to get your dream watch and ...  more in the future.

I don't know if this is of any help but hope so.

 

 

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Please guide

 
By: Was1243 : November 14th, 2016-10:49
I am new to PP world. I just saw a white gold golden ellipse and would like to purchase the same. Did a web search and saw prices which are thousands of $$ apart seemingly for the same exact watch (example, a HK seller with a price 10K less. I want to buy... 

I have the WG Golden Ellipse

 
By: dr.kol : November 14th, 2016-11:18
with a blue dial and 240 automatic movement. The watch is a bit smallish to my 8 inches wrist and thus I bought also the bigger platinum version. Let the Moderators correct me if I'm wrong but we do not give any price guidelines nor purchase advice here. ... 

The TE says...

 
By: Tonypatch : November 14th, 2016-11:49
...he likes the Ellipse so why bring up the much more expensive and also totally different Nautili??? Yes, I know it is mainstream to like them, but he wants something else, why talk him into it? In particular, why "start" with stainless steel, which is q... 

Everybody can do what they want.

 
By: dr.kol : November 14th, 2016-12:03
If an opinion is asked, I tell what I think. I'm not a Guru whose opinion should be followed but I am trying to help a first timer. Golden Ellipse is an iconic Patek but for many of us it is a specialised watch looking better with suit than with swimming ... 

Swimming pants?

 
By: Tonypatch : November 14th, 2016-12:12
The chap who inquired about the watch seems to like the Ellipse, most likely he has seen it in the flesh and tried it on. I did not read anything about swimming. Unless you live on a tropical island, which most people in the world dont, wearing a suit-com... 

Gentleman, in my opinion Ellipse is a watch.....

 
By: watercolors : November 15th, 2016-02:10
that is not easily distinguished. It is not a matter of a "Suit watch" or "Swimming trunks" watch. It is a watch of some aesthetical value designed for a true Aristocrat , a person whom you can see at an important function wearing a silk neckerchief from ... 

It is just me but

 
By: dr.kol : November 15th, 2016-02:25
I have had the Ellipse for quite a long time and for me it is mostly a black tie watch. Best Kari

Thank you

 
By: Was1243 : November 14th, 2016-13:01
I am most grateful for your reply. I didn\'t realize that some of my questions were verboten. So sorry, being a first timer, I wasn\'t conversant with the site\'s protocol. I saw a brown white gold ellipse w/brown strap and was smitten. The watch was very... 

Okay, appreciated.

 
By: dr.kol : November 14th, 2016-13:10
The WG Golden Ellipse is quite exciting and different. If you have some questions, please PM me. I can probably help you but not on the pages of this forum. There are always ways and means... Best, Kari

Dr. Kol: how may I reach you. My mobile number is *****. Thank you. [nt]

 
By: Was1243 : November 14th, 2016-13:18
EDIT: Hi WAS, I've just removed your phone number in order you don't get spam by unwelcome calls. To use the Private Message function, yçou can click on the picture of the forumner you wish to talk to and a micro-menu will appear: choose "send message". B... 

I guess it's a US number?

 
By: dr.kol : November 14th, 2016-13:33
I'm in Finland just now and we have soon midnight. This week is pretty awful and I'll have still two foreign trips ahead of me. I will send my number and email as a Private Message. We can speak over the weekend. Use this PM function - it's quite useful. ... 

Welcome on our forum Was :)

 
By: Mark in Paris : November 14th, 2016-14:17
I hope you'll find what you're looking for here. About your enquiries, we in fact prefer to focus friendly talk on the watches themselves, the economy of the sector etc but try to avoid talking about rebates, prices, good or bad sellers etc... These come ... 

Mark in Paris

 
By: Was1243 : November 14th, 2016-19:19
Hi Mark: Thank you for your most comprehensive note...very impressive. I can see now that this forum is for "real" (transient) connoisseurs, where the conversation is mostly about pros and cons (if any) of different watches. Fair enough, that is the right... 

Very interesting reading

 
By: Mark in Paris : November 15th, 2016-04:53
and I must say I understand and quite agree with all you said in a sense that the "investment" and "financial" parts of the subject may be interesting as well, first because it is part of the watchworld, it is interesting to know how it works and secondly... 

Golden Ellipse is special.

 
By: Costa (aka Connie) : November 14th, 2016-19:32
My father owns 3 Golden Ellipses. They are rather unique and not seen too often in the wild. That is what makes them fun to wear. The watch is a timeless classic. I would recommend trying one on for fit and feel. When you are buying pre-owned make sure to... 

Welcome to the PP forum.

 
By: jimjenkins : November 14th, 2016-20:53
I share very similar opinions regarding the inseparable aspect of our passion to watches and economics. It is indeed unfortunate that this and related forums ban economic discussions. Consequently the information posted are mostly love stories, news of up... 

Golden Ellipse

 
By: whit : November 15th, 2016-05:41
Read your post and responses you received. It can be a perplexing journey to your first Patek given your research regarding the variables you've encountered thus far. Since you are in the US, I would encourage you to pursue obtaining your watch from an AD... 

Welcome to the forum

 
By: rnaden : November 15th, 2016-06:33
That's a really interesting and unique PP you're considering for a first serious watch and I applaud you for that. Looking forward to reading and seeing that here when you do land it To your question, I believe many of them have been addressed in one way ...