Patek Philippe

Hey all, I am currently in a position to purchase one of these watches. 5004G/P or 5970P/G/RG Which one would be your favourite pick and why? Any inputs/comments/suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Cheers, GG

If u can get hold of the 5004 byall means. The only set back is the size. It is a piee that is rarely avaiable. Good Luck, Henry Hoe

There is no real debate over these watches. The 5004 is far more complicated with the split seconds hands, very rare and very expensive compared to the 5970. If you can find and afford the 5004, it is the way to go. From a strictly aesthetics's point of v... 

And this has to be the 5970...... Whilst I love the 5004 and really appreciate its every quality and could sit and look at that movement all day long for me the 5004 looks out of proportion and awkward. I understand all of the 5004`s technical superiority... 

any way to try them both on? I prefer the smaller size of the 5004, mainly because I have small wrists. I also prefer the round button pushers of the 5004. With these two ideas in mind, I would also look at a 3970.

5004 for me. Having seen the 5004 in the flesh, I can only say it was amazing. I like the more rounded, classic feel it has. regards, greg

but there is something pretty cool about owning a 5004. I would say it depends on how big your wrist is. the 36mm watches look ok on me but not really on big guys

so they are not that rare, yet Personally I love the look of the 5004 dial a notch more than the 5970 but I have no use with the split chronograph or the chronograph. Therefore, it's about its craftmanship and rarity. To me , I'm not sure why is a 5004 2x... 

If it was me, I would more than likely go with either the 5970G or P. Though it goes without saying, that the 5004 is a far more complicated piece and that in itself should be the clincher for most collectors. I rather prefer to wear whichever one that I ... 

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Sorry to possibly "insult" proud 5970 owners, but to me the 5004 looks like the mother of all complicated PP chronos. Applied arabic numerals are in my opinion esthetically more pleasing than indices. Same applies to applied roman numerals. If you compare... 

If you can get one and afford one. 5004 may be 2x the price of a 5970, considering same metal. Cheers, Larry

The 5970 is a great watch however the 5004 is a much rarer piece and more complicated as well. I really wear and enjoy the 5004's the most......it may be a little thick, but no worse than a 5016.......and in my mind much more elegant with the round pusher... 

Not really fair to compare these two watches. Three main differences. Complications, Styling and Price. If it was my money and I was buying, it would be the 5970 p, a dream watch. Whatever you decide enjoy in good health.