Patek Philippe

are the descriptions on the Antiquorum corrects? I would like to expose a situation, that in my opinion is incorrect. In the next sale of Antiquorum in New York, that corresponds to the watch 120 to a Patek 5004R, with a black dial, in the description of ... 

without seeing anymore. The descriptions tend to underreport issues Julian

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.later in the catalog for lot 195 but not for the ref. 5004, interesting. Very fun to flip through the catalog!

I bought a watch at each of the last two Antiquorum auctions.. The first was a stainless Daytona which primped well for the photo but needed much more work than their grading intimated, the second was a vintage Patek delivered 'not working' and with a Bul... 

caveat emptor. I am a believer you should always view the watch you are bidding on and go through the papers to verify the watch reflects whats written on the papers. If there are no papers get the correct numbers and contact PP and order a archival paper... 

I agree in the sense that in life, 'caveat emptor' is obvious, or it should be obvious... But we're not talking about buying watches from some guy on the corner in a trenchcoat. This is Antiquorum, they're trying to build a secondary marketplace brand, th... 

It often and in anyway involves large sums, I obey 2 golden rules Rule 1 Experienced buyers have often said or heard ‘Buy the seller’ . Excuses can be made for some pieces being parts, but when it has been parts business, what possible chance ... 

In my opinion the risk, is to buy by a watch a surplus price, in my opinion the real value of this watch is not a same if the seller can confirm the origin of the modification, is not a same a 5004R, or another watch with correctily certificate, with a bi... 

First, you have to look at the condition report in full. Second, you have to realize that the default for used watches is to be sold without their original buckles and straps. Antiquorum mentions those items only when they are original or otherwise notewo... 

My concern is not about buckles etc or even if the movement needs a service It is usually about the condition of the case and dials and whether they have any work done or even replaced Often very vague comments about these-if at all Julian

I,m ok for the buckles or strap, I buyed a patek 591 in antiquorum, the buckle and strap doesn,t and originals, but this problem is not important in my opinion, the problem is when the auction housse will be sold a 95% original watch by a 100% original, a... 

some of the hands on this watch are incorrect...as one who has a number of #5004's, I can tell you that the leap year and 24hr indicators should be white and not gold on a yellow metal piece with a black dial....this makes one wonder as to how many of the... 

the modification of 5004R with the black dial, is not a absoluty perefect, some colors from the dial are not adecuate, but this is some of the interesting of this watch, is different..........and this funny, the important thing is when this modification i... 

..are not good to deal with, I have had some dealings buying and selling with antiquorum and I no longer trust them and I have a number of good reasons and if I posted them on this forum would probably lead to legal action, I am normally a vintage/modern ... 

in my opinion the only problem in antiquorum is the money, in the past with patrizzi probably whas a different thing, today, THE MONEY IS ONLY RAISON FOR THEM, the watches, the security for the buyers, to pay the sellers, etc is not important, and this is...