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That is what I meant.
Lower supply in used market. If ADs have the 5230, that’s one thing because if they aren’t moving Patek won’t continue to produce more. Also, if they aren’t selling their will be less on used market, which is what we see.
I wonder if the retail price is the biggest issue? I wasn’t in the market back then so I don’t know how the price compares to what retail was for a 5110 or 5130. Judging by the used market, it seems 5110 was priced considerably lower and the 5130 more moderately lower. Perhaps Patek overshot on where they priced this one?
Does anyone know...
if there is a logical reason for certain patek to be with a folding buckle and others t obe with a tang buckle? I thought the most complicated/expensive ones were coming with a buckle, but i also saw some of the platinium ones with a tang instead of a buc...
There is no logical reason Kev
Some watches come with a deployant clasp while others have a pin buckle. I personally prefer the latter because sometimes the deployant clasp is not so comfortable. Yes the PP deployant clasp is not cheap but many argue it is a piece of jewel on its own a...
Personal Preference
I really like using the simple buckle. The deployant clasp makes me nervous . I prefer the simple, classic buckle on all of my watches.
They are also easier to adjust
from hole to hole should one be living in a tropical climate like I do.
Interesting. I’m the exact opposite. Why does deployant make you nervous?
Pin buckle makes me nervous. Even though it hasn’t happened to me yet, I’m always afraid a watch with pin buckle is going to slip through my fingers as I’m taking it off and fall to the floor. One doesn’t have this concern with deployant buckle. It is muc...
The deployant buckle does not make me nervous
but quite a few are not as comfortable to wear due to their construction. I agree they are safer when you remove the watch but I am pretty careful when removing my watch anyway and always ensure it i done over a mattress so that if it falls (which it neve...
i have indeed read on another forum
that the deployant one can be quite uncomfy compared to the pin one but it's quite aesthetic though (the one with the patek logo)
Personally,
I would never prioritise good looks over comfort. It is like buying a great looking pair of shoes that gives you blisters! Okay, perhaps an extreme analogy since wearing a watch with a deployant buckle should never result in any injury just possible disco...
You make good points, Sham.
I guess I just haven’t had the issue with weight or experienced any loss of comfort on my deployant. I’m wearing one right now on my 5230 and I can’t honestly say I notice a difference in weight or comfort for a similar watch in my collection with pin buc...
And I am really glad for you!
I had a 5575G and a 5153G and both deployant buckles were not the most comfortable. If you fit a pin buckle to your 5230, you will notice the difference in weight. More importantly, the fact that you are happy and comfortable with your deployant buckle is...
I’m sure you’re right, my friend. 😂
Sometimes it takes me a while to notice things such as this. I wouldn’t say you’re a fussy old pot anymore than I’m still in honeymoon phase with my latest piece 😁
I am actually quite amazed
that the 5230 has not been selling well since its launch. It is so much better looking and better proportioned than the 5130 and I would have thought that it would be a hit! Beautiful dial, gorgeous lugs, slightly smaller case, what is there not to like??...
You and me both. I don’t understand it, but I consider myself lucky to acquire one under these circumstances.
As you say, there is a lot to love. Case size is perfect, dial is fantastic, the lugs get some criticism but to me they are a highlight, the removal of crown guards make it a more seductive offer, too. Everything from the font on the cities disc to the pr...
The best part
is that despite the poor sales, the watch still holds its value relatively well in the used market!
I don't think so
as I see the 5230 in every AD I visit in UK and in Malaysia. But world timers have a price floor so the resale value of a 5230 is also dictated by the used prices of the 5110 and 5130. And the used prices of these two models remain strong. The 5230 being ...
That is what I meant.
Lower supply in used market. If ADs have the 5230, that’s one thing because if they aren’t moving Patek won’t continue to produce more. Also, if they aren’t selling their will be less on used market, which is what we see. I wonder if the retail price is t...
I actually remember
when the 5110R was priced at slightly more than 11k British pounds sterling in 2002/2003. Has inflation gone up by more than 300%? I doubt so but we all know that prices of watches have escalated uncontrollably in the last last 15 years. It is always a qu...
The laws of supply and demand have prevailed I guess
Mechanical watches have been enjoying immense popularity among all walk of life and even among women too so manufacturers have seized the opportunity and I do not really blame them. And we all know how addictive our passion is - one watch is never enough!...
We don't talk about priceings here is clear.
Its a clear subjective matter and object law that we don't talk about prices and in this forums.
We not price discuss things here on this Forum!!1
We should keen in mind the spirit of this forum and the idea of not getting carried away by money. We can surely "t hink" that a buckele or tang or 5110 timer is or is not acceptable price-wise or in line with other WT offerings . We can have our thoughts...
I have a deployant clasp on my 5711J and it's not ideal in terms of ergonomy - but it's also different from the Calatrava clasp.
In my personal view, the most comfortable and most easily to adjust deployant clasps are made by Cartier. That being said, I do like Patek's deployant clasp with the Calatrava cross very much. Indeed, a piece of jewelry!
I agree!
The Cartier deployant buckle is comfortable and the Patek deployant clasp looks better than it wears! And comfort is pretty important when wearing a watch for most of us I think.
I believe that there must be some logical reasons behind but I don't see any general rule
My guess is that Patek makes the decision for every watch based on several criteria: aesthetics, cost to manufacture, number of watches with buckle/folding, etc. From a consumers perspective, I would like to have pin buckles and deployables available in e...
well that's kinda the problem
it only seems to come in WG ... which does not help with the pricing though (around 2.5K GBP for the buckle ONLY) ok we dont talk abot money here bt stil... it's a fair amount for a tiny piece
If only available in WG...
... I would not use it for 5056P. A different metal than the watch... No way!
