can be tricky and I didn't mean to make you uncomfortable. Sorry for asking but since FabR post I was very curious ...and now I know the retail price so I am very happy that my curiosity has been satisfied๐. I completely agree that these pieces are very rare and difficult to allocate. As I own 4 PP watches rest assured that pricing was always a consideration for me. I was offered at least a few LE pieces from Patek (but never rare handcrafts) and I don't have regrets from from saying no when I didn't feel comfortable. Is all about loving the pieces and not the money of the investment scenarios for me as I am sure is for many in this forum๐