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Simple exercise
There have been mention of brand names, property, etc etc etc I do this for a living on the equity markets for a global investment bank and its all just about profitability and growth
Someone mentioned Brand Name and Coca Cola. Did you know that Coca Cola is valued at only arond 18-20x their projected earnings? I know many "No Brand Name" companies valued at 30-40x earnings. Sure the brand name is worth something but it actually drives their earnings through higher margins/returns that derive their prrofit and we all value the company based on profit and projected growth (on a very simplistic level).
Of course their property is worth something but that is used to generate their revenues/proft. There is some benefit if youwant to sell and lease back the property and many do that kind of deal to release the underlying value which helps to fund the acquistion. BUT tht comes at cost of interest payments and lower net margins in the end.
The museum! well this is another story. I think this is something you need to pay for on top of profit. I expect this part of the biz is worth a lot. So i guess you will pay say 20x earnings plus whatever value the watches and artifacts in the museum is worth.....
I would love to own a piece of Patek!!! Let me know if you need some cash!!!
value
By: octop8 : March 15th, 2007-03:54
Well, the question is not just how much they sell but how much money they make, i.e. profitability. As a broad brush, luxury brand companies sell at between 2-4 times the revenues they generate. Just broad brush of course, at the end of the day, you need ...
value...
By: octop8 : March 15th, 2007-03:58
So let's say PP makes 35,000 watches a year, average selling price of $10000 per watch (conservative, could be higher), you would expect at the top end (4 x revenues), around 1.4bn valuation. Very roughly of course.
396 million CHF
By: PeterCDE : March 15th, 2007-07:35
That is, the brand name ("Patek Philippe") only , according to Interbrand 2006 annuals (check interbrand.com). Assets and intellectual properties go extra, which certainly won´t come cheap. There you go. Cheers, Peter
Simple exercise
By: JC : March 15th, 2007-15:10
There have been mention of brand names, property, etc etc etc I do this for a living on the equity markets for a global investment bank and its all just about profitability and growth Someone mentioned Brand Name and Coca Cola. Did you know that Coca Cola...
Multiples
By: octop8 : March 15th, 2007-20:21
No the different multiples Coca Cola vs your "no brand names" are also a function of what the market perceives as growth prospects. Lower multiples might mean market perception of lower growth prospects, which would not be suprising for a company already ...
nice
By: Giulio Verne : March 30th, 2007-05:49
My opinion about is (this is my job i m a Private Equity Player) that if you do not Know the real numebers you can not tell a reasonable price. In my opinion, but is just a feeling the price could be 1 or 1,5 bilion of euro more or less by GV