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Question for 5119 owners?
Did it initially take some getting used to i.e. telling time in the absence of minute markers? Would you much prefer the dial layout of the 5196 instead?

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In my opinion
By: sham1 : August 14th, 2017-03:39
you do not require minute markers to tell the time. I have owned a 5119R and I now use my Moser fume dial (which only has two hands and is otherwise blank) quite often. No problem for me to tell the time. I cannot tell the seconds but the hours and minute...
In that case
By: sham1 : August 14th, 2017-04:00
get the 5119. You will not regret it. In fact, I am thinking of getting a 5119R or 5116R in 2017 or early 2018. The watch is slim and I think the size is elegant. Some people do not like the hob nail bezel. That bezel identifies the watch with Patek Phili...