Part V: COMPLICATIONS

May 06, 2013,06:15 AM
 

Timekeeping instruments that provide functions beyond indicating the time and date are called complicated watches. Some are useful, some are romantic … and some are just beautiful – noting more, nothing less.

 

Ref. 5960P






There have been several versions before and even the black dial was introduced with an R case before. Nonetheless the P version with black dial is very addictive.

 

Live/wrist pictures :













The latest version is probably the most wearable one, especially when you have a smaller wrist and you are based in the western part of the world. The black dial makes it look smaller and the white metal fits just perfect. I can imagine quite a few people will fall for it smile


Ref. 5170G




There already have been quite a few discussions around the 5170 in general and I trust all of you know the "technical" details.









Nothing new on the back side and the side view looks familiar as well.


It gets different when we look at the dial.



For some the Breguet numerals have been a big surprise, but they fit quite well when we look at the history of chronographs from Patek Philippe. Like the J version it looks a bit cold on the first view and has to be seen in detail.







You still think it is cold? I think it is very classy and beautiful. Understated comes to my mind.

Sure it is not the best what PP is able to do (just think about the outstanding 5950), but in that price range it is sublime.


Please, may I ask for a favor : no additional price discussions and glories for the 5070.
There already have been a lot and can be found by search function, if needed. Thanks!
smile

 

On the wrist :







Well, judge by yourself. Just make sure that you saw it in metal before your final judgment. You will be surprised about the details you don´t see on pictures, even on macro´s. For me it is a real beauty for what it is and I could (probably) live with it forever.


 

Ref. 5146/1R-001




New version - nothing more, nothing less.



Ref. 5205R





When the G versions have been introduced in 2010, it was like a (little) shock for some of the very conservative Patek collectors. Especially those kinds of lugs (side view) have been discussed or shall we say ignored by some. Nonetheless, today I think there is a quite a big “fan group” for that watches and I can see why – easily. Me, I liked it from day one – especially the side view smile


This year it was introduced in rose gold and with two different dials.














Can you imagine it was not available like this before? Very classy, isn´t it?

 

On the wrist :










Looking at the wrist shots I can see that I had an unsteady hand. Why? Well, it´s up to you. But if you guess, it was just too tempting. It´s not that wrong …


Just took pictures on the wrist from the black dial version, but this is not meant as a ranking.

 

Conclusion :

 

Both new versions are very beautiful and a very nice addition to the collection. Only bad news, it will be even more difficult for “fan´s” of the 5205 to choose.

 

Ref. 5396/1R-010 and /1G-010




Two new classy versions of something we have seen before.



Ref 5130J






“Just” one more version in J or a new trend back to yellow gold?

 

Live pictures :








Ref. 7134G




I have a weakness for the Calatrava Travel Time in general, but to make it short: I am not a big fan of this version. Without the signature on the dial it could be from so many other brands. Maybe it is just me.

 


Ref. 7130R





Live pictures :










Last year I attended a Patek Philippe owner´s dinner and the ladies on my table had a strong weakness for the G version and I can´t blame them for their taste. Think they would love the new R version as well. Especially because of the hands I like it a lot.



Ref. 7121J







Didn´t take pictures of it, but think it is a very nice and classy watch. Only the officer´s-style case is seductive for its own, but the tone-in-tone moon-phase adds also some kind of romantic. On a dark brown strap it should be even nicer. By the way, I love that buckle smile




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Baselworld 2013: Patek Philippe

 
 By: small-luxury-world : May 5th, 2013-11:48
Pre-Baselworld, everybody is waiting impatiently to see the novelties of the year. This year it was the first show inside the new building from Herzog & de Meuron (world famous architects from Basel) and that was a “novelty” on top. The Patek Philippe...  

Part I: CALATRAVA

 
 By: small-luxury-world : May 5th, 2013-11:51
It is known as the signature collection and was launched in 1932. For some it represents the epitome of a round wristwatch. Each member of the collection is elegant in its simplicity and classically understated. Each change or new addition is observed by ...  

great posts Oliver..thanks !! You also busted my watch budget...

 
 By: GLau : May 6th, 2013-10:28
... because my wife wants the 7200R in that it 1) is an automatic movement without diamonds on the case, 2) has stylish breguet numerals, and 3) utilizes the light color strap that matches the Rose Gold perfectly

Part II: GONDOLO

 
 By: small-luxury-world : May 5th, 2013-11:53
Rigorous geometry and pure lines of modernism, characteristic design features of the Art Deco movement, are recognizable in the Gondolo collection, inspired by classic models from the 1930s. Ref. 5200G 8 Days, Day & Date Indication and a manual windin...  

At the wrist...

 
 By: dirost : May 5th, 2013-17:13
Thanks for all your detailed explanations. I see in your post some wrist shots with the blue dial version. Could you give us your feedback , feelings, when you had it at your wrist ? Thanks.

5200

 
 By: Mike H : May 6th, 2013-04:48
Just like dirost, I am a great fan of the new 5200. I like everything on this watch : the art deco case shape, the magnificent blue dial, the newly developed caliber... So 1000 thanx for your detailed report about this beauty... (and for all others also) ... 

I told earlier that the watch is too big for me

 
 By: dr.kol : May 6th, 2013-04:57
but naturally that is very personal. I considered Fifty Fathoms too large and in my opinion in my 200 mm wrist watches between 36 and 40 mm are just right. I could never wear i.e. a bigger Panerai while some people consider it totally of right size. Hold ... 

"that is very personal"

 
 By: small-luxury-world : May 6th, 2013-06:34
Indeed it is, dear Kari. My wrist is smaller than yours, but the Fifty Fathoms (45mm) feels very comfortable for what it is. Still share your thoughts about the size of the 5200. Oliver

Thanks Mike ...

 
 By: small-luxury-world : May 6th, 2013-06:32
and regarding my wrist size, you are correct. For you it may be OK, but it depends on personal taste. For me, I don´t see it on my wrist as it was not comfortable for me. Oliver

Part III: NAUTILUS

 
 By: small-luxury-world : May 5th, 2013-11:55
With Patek Philippe´s first sports watch, the company introduced a timepiece that was both rugged and streamlined. The current Nautilus collection is a result of the subtle evolution of the original Ref. 3700 from the 1970s. Still today it will be hard to...  

Lovely pics, Oliver - thanks for sharing!

 
 By: no_frills : May 5th, 2013-12:11
As I contemplate with Nautilus to obtain for my wife, I am increasingly drawn to either the self-winding movements like the 7008 or perhaps some of the newly introduced references. However, she DOES like wearing slightly larger cases (her daily wearer is ... 

Nautilus for the wife ...

 
 By: small-luxury-world : May 6th, 2013-06:37
I would recommend the new Ref. 7018 or the 5800/1A you mentioned. Put them on her wrist and she will tell you what is right, in a second :-) Thanks for your kind words! Oliver

RG Nautilus is a big hit for me.

 
 By: Mark in Paris : May 5th, 2013-14:48
This is something quite new to me but, as I saw the RO in full RG or the pictures of this 5980 full RG, I wonder if I'm not evolving positively. I leave in France and in this side of the world the full gold watches (with bracelet) or mixed Steel+Gold watc... 

Mark, I am with you ...

 
 By: small-luxury-world : May 6th, 2013-06:44
and we can call it maturing or next level of madness. Who is the judge :-) AP RO in RG: You probably refer to the new 15202. It looks good and I had to tried it at an AD. It felt good, but not tempting enough and that was not because of the flaw it had on... 

I fear

 
 By: Mark in Paris : May 6th, 2013-06:54
what will follow the try in my head during the next few days... Yes I was talking about this 15202 even if the Nautilus as a base is (I think) more appealing to me. It's going to be a "tough" experience ... Cheers, Mark

thanks for the nice pics...

 
 By: Fricks : May 5th, 2013-15:04
.... all those that saw the bi-color told me it was the nicest. Apparently the dial is stunning in the metal. If only we could swap dials :)

Fricks, my pleasure.

 
 By: small-luxury-world : May 6th, 2013-06:46
Still prefer the 5980R, because the AR with its blue is just too much for me. But this comes from someone who used to love "white metal" only, on his wrist :-) Thanks! Oliver

how did you like the 5160R?

 
 By: Fricks : May 6th, 2013-11:25
... i loved the G version. When you get in the details of how they do it for the engraving to look that good, that's real art. Looks amazing too!

Fantastic!

 
 By: sam1234 : May 5th, 2013-15:48
Relatively new to this forum, but this has to be the most intelligent and comprehensive review that I have seen on any forum or internet medium! Honestly, unless I was there trying these beauties on myself i don't see how i could get a better feel for the... 

sam1234, thanks a lot for your very kind reply!

 
 By: small-luxury-world : May 6th, 2013-06:50
I agree, official press pictures don´t show the "reality" most of the time. That is the main reason why I decided to take my own pictures, even when they are not perfect without professional light set-up. Thanks! Oliver

Thank you for the wonderful pictures and writeup!

 
 By: bulliondesk : May 6th, 2013-07:40
I feel Patek got it wrong with regards to the dial on the all RG 5980. The brown with a gold hue doesn't seem to fit, it looks flat combined with the RG.. while the two tone has a beautiful crisp and rich ocean blue. I would have switched the two dials. T... 

Miranda, my pleasure. Thanks!

 
 By: small-luxury-world : May 6th, 2013-06:51
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Thanks Oliver...

 
 By: Ornatus-Mundi : May 5th, 2013-22:43
for having me forced to set aside some funds for watches (again)... I fully agree with you on the Ref. 7200R and also on the Ref. 5980/1AR and 5980/1R. Both together would make a terrific pair of PP covering all situations. I had dinner with a PP collecto... 

My dear Magnus ...

 
 By: small-luxury-world : May 6th, 2013-06:54
I could imagine both watches in your family, at the same time. Please, don´t shoot me :-) Thanks and enjoy your holiday! Oliver

"at the same time"...

 
 By: Ornatus-Mundi : May 6th, 2013-09:46
but probably on different wrists ;-) Cheers, Magnus

Exactly ...

 
 By: small-luxury-world : May 6th, 2013-10:16
that´s what I had in mind :-)

Great report with great pictures!

 
 By: Georg : May 6th, 2013-01:56
Thanks for sharing. The 5200 becomes more attractive every time I see a picture of it. Best regards Georg

I like 5200 too...

 
 By: dr.kol : May 6th, 2013-03:56
However, my wrist is in my opinion perhaps a bit small for this watch. I kept the watch on my wrist in Basel for a good while and admired the same. It's wonderful but quite big. My wrist is 200 mm (8 inches). Best, Kari

Good luck!

 
 By: dr.kol : May 6th, 2013-05:43
The blue dialed is stunningly beautiful. The white dialed is also readable... Best, Kari

Georg, thanks for your kind reply and ...

 
 By: small-luxury-world : May 6th, 2013-06:55
the 5200 should be perfect on your wrist. Hopefully that is not bad news for your wifes acquisition ... :-) Oliver

Part IV: GRAND COMPLICATIONS

 
 By: small-luxury-world : May 6th, 2013-06:12
Grand complications represent the paragon of horology and Patek Philippe is known for them. As already mentioned above this year it was not about new movements – inner values. Was it less impressive? Well, have a look and judge yourself. Ref. 5539G The Re...  

Part V: COMPLICATIONS

 
 By: small-luxury-world : May 6th, 2013-06:15
Timekeeping instruments that provide functions beyond indicating the time and date are called complicated watches. Some are useful, some are romantic … and some are just beautiful – noting more, nothing less. Ref. 5960P There have been several versions be...  

Nice photos!! [nt]

 
 By: serali : May 8th, 2013-08:28

Beautiful! Love the 5960 range.

 
 By: Davo : May 24th, 2013-19:56
Always have, always will.

Final conclusion:

 
 By: small-luxury-world : May 6th, 2013-06:16
2013 was not the year of BIG novelties. It was more about additions, adaptations, evolutions and one new movement. Nothing is wrong with that if you look at their already very strong and wide collection. There was simply no need for any kind of “rocket sc...  

Thank you Oliver,

 
 By: dr.kol : May 6th, 2013-07:21
your report was outstanding. Even I spent one full day in Patek's booth, some issues I could see clearer after reading your report. Outstanding job! Best, Kari

Excellent report, Oliver

 
 By: Park : May 6th, 2013-07:48
Thank you for all the time and energy that you devoted to preparing this well-organized report with such thoughtful commentary. I am among those you predicted will fall for the black-dialed version of the 5960P. Park

5170G all the way...!!!

 
 By: Fricks : May 6th, 2013-10:37
that one is on its way to my wrist sooner or later! Loved it... little sister of the 5950A :)

Very nice Report Oliver. I would say that the elephant

 
 By: timerider : May 6th, 2013-15:51
in the living room is that PP is saving some really cool items for the 175th anniversary next Basel. Buy your tickets early! Best, Tim

Thanks, Oliver

 
 By: lanzet : May 9th, 2013-06:47
for an outstanding report and really excellent photos! Concerning the strength of innovation in 2013, I agree with other members: Patek did a "ok" job (e.g. 5200 with new caliber) but is of course intensely working on some really new references to celebra... 

My pleasure, Merke.

 
 By: small-luxury-world : May 6th, 2013-06:56
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Many thanks Oliver..........

 
 By: Topcat30093 : May 8th, 2013-23:17
For a nicely constructed report. As already mentioned,its the best one that I have read to date. For me the 5227 is a lovely addition and is a good replacement for the 5127 I shall be keen to see for myself both the 59060P (Black dial) and the R/G 5205. A... 

Thanks for the report!

 
 By: snipermaverick : May 20th, 2013-23:56
The pictures were awesome too!

Thanks for your kind reply!

 
 By: small-luxury-world : May 21st, 2013-03:27
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Thanks for the comprehensive report Oliver.

 
 By: foversta : May 29th, 2013-14:18
But let me digest it and I will come back to you. Fx