amazing how 'forgiving' Patek collectors are... a smaller size existing model... wow! Shrug. Patek has conditioned their collectors to have the lowest expectations, IMHO. I guess if you look at my post history, you will see I am pretty critical of Patek... but if this were any other brand... it would only be normal posts... any criticism of Patek is usually viewed as 'extreme and personal' against either Patek themselves or Patek collectors... and very view acknowledge that this model is derivative of Zenith, blatantly. If it were the other way around, no one would notice, comment, or care. Or they would say Zenith is genius for nearly or essentially or hard to deny pretty much 'copying' Patek.