Patek Philippe

Note that this thread includes only the "simple" retrograde perpetual calendars, meaning those with no other complications. Therefore, the references with a minute repeater and a tourbillon (5013, 5016, 5213, 5216, 5217, 5316) are deliberately lefts aside...  

Some very interesting pieces ! Which one is your favorite ?

Among 5050, it’s 5050R but ideally I would like stick indexes without “Automatic” and with a semicircular moon phase (like on the Roman numerals model). Among 5496, I like the regular platinum with non-framed windows and semicircular moon phase. But at th... 

taking the time on this highly informative post!

I’m glad if this thread is helpful.

Great post. Thank you

Thanks for looking and for the kind words.

There is no 5160J…

-Dean

There’s one for sale on C24 but I don’t dare ask for the price…

Great, so now I'll be sitting at my desk getting nothing done for the next hour looking at these. My personal favorite (leaving out unique pieces, since they're unobtainable) is ref. 5496. Never liked seeing the word automatic on the dial. They didn't use... 

and I like the semicircular moonphase better the fully circular one. Reason why I like the regular platinum 5496, even though pt feels a bit cold to me. I also find the 5159 quite attractive. But the London 5059R-017 looks so warm and gorgeous! Thanks for... 

In its many iterations.

...but the 5050 reference was made for this metal : ) I saw one when new and fell in love, but there was no way I could have afforded it back then.

because of its warmth, I like the R versions quite a bit. But I see what you mean about the J variants, which are gorgeous indeed. And, having seen none in real life, I know that what I feel on paper could be different from what I would feel in the metal.... 

Sadly, while it made a big splash prior to 5059 borrowing the same movement, it seems to have lost favor somewhat with prices in the secondary market way way down from the initial highs. In general it seems like 5050/5059/5159 are very underappreciated. I...  

but couldn’t find any photos: thank you so much for filling in this gap. The retrograde perpetual calendar is not only very good looking in terms of layout: it also contains a very pleasing complication. And, more specifically, concerning the 5496P-015, w... 

ago in Phillip’s November HK sale lot 884 a single sealed one with box and papers sold “all in” for approximately $45,000 USD! Think about it - factory fresh, single sealed platinum retrograde perpetual with 2 backs for almost $15,000 less than a platinum... 

blind us watch enthusiasts can become. But it’s a very good news too, because it means these watches remain attainable. I’m glad to know the 5496 wears well and will definitely try to see one in the metal someday. Best, Emmanuel

HAGWE my friends. Mech. ...  

even I think this stick indexes version would be even more perfect without the “Automatic” and with a semicircular moon phase as in the 1st gen. But these are minor details given the overall greatness of this timepiece. Best.

even if “sad”! 😅

That would be my dream tbh🙏🏻 so beautiful

And I personally prefer the case without engravings. Thanks for looking!

I love these... All wonderful, but they are so unloved today. ...  

Lucky you: both fantastic! “Unloved”, maybe, yes, but certainly not by me! I would love to own one of these.

… the first series (with roman dial) in platinum is the gold standard. Extremely rare. And the first of its kind. but nearly impossible to get in the market.

so I’d be more happy with a rose or yellow gold version (just my taste of course).

This watch is impressive no matter how many times you look at it, but the price is a bit unattractive...

Thanks for looking.

I am not sure why but I can’t warm up to the date arranged this way

or do you dislike any pointer indication of the date? credit: monochrome ...  

but I personally also like the retrograde date arching from 8 to 4. Just a matter of personal taste of course.

There’s so much to love in most of them, imo.

Especially since the world is getting more casual. But there’s something special about a retrograde perpetual calendar Patek. Call me crazy but I still love it.

Well done! FYI, the white gold 5050G with baton indices is a 2nd series, reference 5050G-001.

Finding exact information isn’t always easy. Best.