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Love is what matters
There are very few Patek models which would not disappoint under those circumstances. One could come up against that scenario awaiting allocation of a Nautilus/Aquanaut/5270/5370 or hot watch of the moment. We Patek owners/collectors/enthusiasts are in a tiny bubble. One of the more mentally healthy moves would be to acquire a Patek (at an AD, used/trade, grey, etc.) that you love then get the heck off the internet! LOL. Have a life-long love affair with your Patek. Grow old with it and appreciate more every year. The most heart warming watch posts I read are when a person saves for a very long time and acquires the piece he/she loves. Then disappears to treasure it in private. What is not heart warming is when someone gets distraught over value retention or exclusivity. We Patek owners are already uber exclusive (in our choice to direct funds toward this brand) whether we want to be or not. The only place in the world we aren't exclusive is on this specific forum.
A Patek World Time with cloisonné enamel dial is bonkers unique in any year, model, reference. If you acquired it free from a relative, at a discount price, at an AD or above retail is entirely irrelevant IMHO. For sure your cloisonné enamel piece is 1-of-1. Anita Porchet and her small cadre of highly capable associates guarantee it.
Best,
Robert
PP 5231/ 5131 still worth collecting?
Hello, when 5131 first came out these pieces where extremely rare and second hand retail price was three times the list price, now there are so man of them on the market ( preowned unworn ones and used ones) that I wonder if they are still worth collectin...
But the typeface on the 5131 is hard for me to overlook : )
...it's an example of a major manufacturer not paying attention...
Market Value and Pricing Discussions
Market Value and Pricing Discussions: Pricing information may be shared when it adds historical, technical, or comparative insight to a discussion. However, posts focused primarily on current market value, investment potential, or resale speculation shoul...
5131 and 5231 Enamel WT watches are generally well liked by collectors.
Ask your AD if you are interested to get 5231G at retail and you can get a sense of its popularity. If you can get it less than retail, you should seriously consider it, assuming that you wish to wear it and enjoy the craftsmanship of the enamel dial. If ...
When I became interested in PP the AD was extremely proud that a client had been chosen to receive one, after writing a letter of application to Geneva…
which professed his undying admiration of the brand and his extensive purchase history. I think these are tremendous pieces and anyone should consider themselves extremely fortunate to possess, whether or not such extensive lengths need be taken in order ...
I prefer largely the 5131 which is more
Rounded, curvy than the 5231 more straight. If you get a good price, it is a watch for a lifetime !
I think these has been relatively stable in terms of asking prices, gray or used, over many many years.
What has changed significantly is Patek’s retail price. The 2008 list price for the J was around $53k. The 2021 list price for the R was around $66k. Now the 2025 piece for the 5231G is $117k. (Wowza!) The used/gray prices have not changed much relative t...
When I very recently saw the retail for a 5231, I almost fell from my chair. I was offered by a good friend of mine a 5131R at the retail ( 45 K Euros from memory ). I passed because I only wanted the G or the P...
In 16 years, the retail " jumped "... To the double! Mad...
thanks for the answers, my dissapointing experiance was:
I still like this watch, but I ordered a 5131G in 2009, only special ADs could put down an order then and I had to contact Patek to ask them if I am "worthy" to buy this watch by telling them which Patek timepieces I already own...Finally they agreed to s...
Unfortunate to hear of your story. 😓
Will you consider buying one at secondary market at below retail ?
MEGA fan of the 5231
... Rare, wearable, beautiful, classy, contemporary.... It is a fantastic piece and I simply adore mine. Worth every penny.
AD and / or Salon do not want to source me 5231G.
Looking at 5131G as I prefer the world dial anyway. I looked at the past 12 months sale at auction fot 5131 and prices are very closed to the 5231G retail one.
Love is what matters
There are very few Patek models which would not disappoint under those circumstances. One could come up against that scenario awaiting allocation of a Nautilus/Aquanaut/5270/5370 or hot watch of the moment. We Patek owners/collectors/enthusiasts are in a ...
Hi Peter, Anita Porchet and her team made the dials for
5131G and then 5131P. She and her team are not involved in 5231s. You can see the difference between 5231 enamel dials vs 5131G & P.
thanks buddy!
i really like the dials of the 5231G,J better...they must have improved the process when going from 5131 to 5231
5231J and G were made by the team that produced 5131R because the
Color gradations are the same in terms of distinctive colors Check out 5131G by Anita Porchet and her team, color gradations are to the next level Your thoughts ?
i think the colors on the 5231 line pop more than on 5131, be it R or G. i really prefer the new style. also the details of the maps...
...seem to have improved. am i wrong? ps: 5131P seems the have set the standards for 5231G and J.
To me, the proper comparison is 5231G vs
5131R which are produced by the same team with similar techniques. Putting them side by side, you would be able to see if improvements have been made.
you are ahead of yourself... 5231R is not out yet, you obviously mean 5231 J and G.
btw, when are we expecting 5231R? next year?