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I will take the c/ Ref. 5102J-001...
...seems to have more depth to the dial and appears thinner. Although I'm surprised the current one is as thin as it is. Silly question: What if a customer wants to see the sky view from somewhere other than Geneva? I'm thinking of watches like the Jules Audemars Equation of Time where watches are customized to location...
The new Celestial & its background
Patek Philippe just released a new Celestial watch: the ref. 6105G-001 . It is an upgraded and completely redesigned version of its two predecessors : ref. 5102 , introduced in 2002 , and ref. 6102 , introduced in 2012 . Let's have a look ! A/ THE NEW CEL...
I will take the c/ Ref. 5102J-001...
...seems to have more depth to the dial and appears thinner. Although I'm surprised the current one is as thin as it is. Silly question: What if a customer wants to see the sky view from somewhere other than Geneva? I'm thinking of watches like the Jules ...
5102 for me as well. BUT...
I just love that Patek is moving the celestial complication forward with yet greater complexity!
Same for me. 5102 or, even more, 5106 are the winners aesthetically.
But the 6105 is a major release imo from a watchmaking perspective. Best, Emmanuel
Aesthetically I also prefer the 5102 or, maybe even more,
the 5106! But the new 6105 is a major release from a horological standpoint imo. Afaik, the sky chart isn’t customizable but I might be wrong. Best, Emmanuel
I like it!
At first, I didn't like the new Celestial. I didn't dislike it, but I was somewhat neutral and not positive about the Celestial. It didn't really follow any Patek Philippe design DNA. But, the more I see it, I want to say that we should applaud Patek Phil...
The modern design isn’t my favorite part of this watch:
I prefer the 5102 and even more the 5106. But from a horological standpoint this 6105 is a major release imo. Best, Emmanuel
My pleasure.
I really think this is a major release in terms of complication and innovation. The design isn’t really my taste, but that’s not a problem. Best, Emmanuel
Thank you so much.
Diving deep into such a reference and understanding where it comes from and what it does is a true pleasure for me. Best, Emmanuel
Yes Emmanuel, This celestial is
quite an innovative product indeed. Have you tried it yet ?
Unfortunately no.
The aesthetic isn’t my personal taste, but I think it is a major release from a horological standpoint. Best, Emmanuel
I still like the older models better.
The new one is good looking watch and because i have a slight bigger wrist i can wear it easily i still like the classic look of the original one.
Aesthetically I feel like you,
but I really think that the 6105 is a major release. In his recent post, ImranLondon expresses the emotional connection he felt when discovering this watch: very interesting. Best, Emmanuel
I like the 2026 celestial the best!!
the lugless case is quite cool.. it suits the overall look of the watch - very modern and futuristic.. But I think 45mm would be perfect.. Here is a lugless watch ~ 44mm on my wrist ...
Yes, the lug-less design makes all the difference and this piece fits your wrist perfectly.
Aesthetically, I personally prefer the more traditional 5102, but I agree that the 6105 is very well designed. And it's a major release. Best, Emmanuel
I’ve seen 6102R live once.
It’s bonkers. Just insane. These are such beautiful watches.
I can imagine how beautiful and appealing they look in person.
Hopefully I’ll be able to see one someday. Best, Emmanuel
Thank you so much, Imran.
Reading your hands-on impressions was a great pleasure, because you highlighted an emotional aspect that is impossible to perceive remotely through simple photos. Best, Emmanuel
Not bad.
Looks modern and refreshing with these updates. But I still much prefer the 5102G-001 - a little smaller, more traditonal case and its engraved Calatrava cross case flank.
Aesthetically, the 5102 is more my taste too.
That said, I think the 6105 is a major release from a horological standpoint. And I think the modern design is very well done, here. Best, Emmanuel