COUNT DE MONET
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I went through the same situation...
... very recently.
Your post about the 5396 R was nearly sealing the deal for me to go for a PP AC.
But than the Lange 1815 in HG came around ... and lucky for me: it felt itself comfortable on my wrist, so I took it home ... 
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In my opinion, next to VC's American 1921, it is THE most AUTHENTIC watch at the moment that you can put your hands on.
In that price league, certainly.
The Lange has a very nice depth due to the very thick dial, that is needed for the lovely guilloche and the step for the small second also.
The proprtion work perfectly well: 37.4 mm diameter with 8.9 mm height is just not too big and thick looking: simply classic.
It is really looking as if it was manufactured around 1815, if you just indulge on the beautiful design.
It is limited, a new VERY intriguing alloy, effortlessly genuine design without looking tacky, in simple words: SPECIAL!
The PP AC I have not seen in real yet, but it looks big, long batons are not harmonius, a cold design, ...
Same the Santos: cold.
The Lange is warm, welcoming to look at.
I reckon you did not see the Lange in the flesh yet?
If than you would not really struggle...
It would fit to your soft spot for vinatage (looking) watches the best.
Cheerio
Moritz
This message has been edited by COUNT DE MONET on 2010-08-25 11:19:03
Tough call...
I know this is a dumb question (because this is largely a matter of personal tastes) but I just want to get a sense of popular sentiment towards these timepieces. To liven up the post, I have borrowed a few photographs posted previously by our brilliant m...
I certainly will surprise you, Sam
But, without any doubt, I would go on the Cartier Santos Skeleton. I'm not an annual calendar fan, as I much prefer simple dates or perpetual calendars. Simple or sohisticated, but not half way, in my very personal opinion. The 1815 Moonphase is a very ni...
Thx Nico...you were quick
but why am I not really surprised! I know you are not a fan of the annual calendar, you also prefer the white to yellow metal, and given that you already own a JLC skeleton PC, well... In any case, y our vote will carry a lot of weight. BTW, nice to hear ...
Nice deduction, Sherlock! :)
But I tried to make abstraction of the colored metal, in this case... For once! Well, I will be less calm, now that I'm back home! Best, and thanks for your nice words, my friend, and please, keep us updated with your final choice. I know your taste is im...
If you plan on wearing the watch daily...
then both Lange and Patek are good choices...and to narrow it down to just one i would go with the Patek... the Cartier for me is not wearable IMO
Good point
I've put the Cartier on the wrist...it looks really nice, but is quite a dressy watch. It doesn't go too well with a T-shirt. Point well taken. Sam
The Lange for Me
...purely based on aesthetics (I have always been drawn by the German-Teutonic design gestalt), quality of finish and size. I concur with comments that the Cartier might suffer a bit in the "wearability" department. I love Patek (have owned one...currentl...
Thanks....
Now I have a real problem....3 responses so far and 3 different answers Cheers sam
Lange 1815 moon phase, please!
Hi samwan, for pure aesthestical reasons I would choose the Lange. The Cartier is too cold and extravagant in style IMO, the Patek is too colourless for me considering it´s a watch with moon phase, although I generallylike the AC. I´m sure, you will not r...
None. They are very different from each other ...
... in all aspects, except one: I find them all ugly. Why these three? If forced to choose I would go for the Lange and then please without the moon. I like simple and the Patek calandar is not and the Cartier is not in my taste, so to say. For that kind ...
Interesting.....
I cannot judge the Lange as I have not seen it in metal (especially with the new gold colour)...... The PP is interesting but the Cartier is gorgeous and the fit is great.... Also, you will not see many of them as Cartier, for the moment, manufactures few...
Patek
I'd go for the Patek annual calendar, but in pink or yellow, instead of white 18k.
I believe the 5205 is only available in WG at this stage
I already have the 5396R which also is an annual calendar Cheers Sam
I share your views about Cartier
I believe I am close to making up my mind Cheers Sam
I'm not a fan of Annual Calendar.....
But if I have to choose from these 3 , I will pick the Patek. It is a simply laid out and quite dashing, good with jeans and can be worn daily. As for the Lange MP, if you turn the watch around, you see a very small movement with a big watchcase, This is ...
There is no question here
I will both agree and differ with my friend CL. First forget the Cartier, not much more to say. Not in the same league as the others IMHO. The Patek is nice and useful, but that is most of what can be said. Nothing too special about it. The Lange 1815 Moo...
I will definitely try the Lange on the wrist before deciding
Many thanks for the input. Cheers Sam
I went through the same situation...
... very recently. Your post about the 5396 R was nearly sealing the deal for me to go for a PP AC. But than the Lange 1815 in HG came around ... and lucky for me: it felt itself comfortable on my wrist, so I took it home ... . In my opinion, next to VC's...
This new 1815 mondphase is wonderful, and would be my choice too!
Enjoy Moritz! -- Richard.
I'm Surprised that
on a Patek forum that people are very objective. Put me down for the Patek...
For me the decision is a simple one.....
From the moment that I saw the first photo of the new 5205 it was love at first sight! Having also tried on a "Dummy" model it only made me more convinced that I would like one. At 40mm it sits nicely on my wrist, though with the slightly concaved case it...
Thank you Tony for your elaboration
It was precisely because of my ownership of the 5396 and 5960 (both annual calendars, not to mention the 5059) that prevented me from making an immediate plunge. And I need to see both the grey and black dials before deciding... Cheers Sam
I did not know.....
that you already have the 5960 (I assume the grey dial)..... Since you have the best (in my opinion) annual calendar from PP then you should go for the Cartier.... I had tried it on a few months ago and it was great.... Captivating, and you will not see m...
Yes...the grey dial
I will give the Cartier serious consideration then. Thx again. Sam
For about 2 years now
It is definitely one of my favorites...sporty yet classy, weight and size both perfect, excellent dial layout, not flashy As I said earlier, I have this PP, as well as the 5396R, 5059P and 5712G. As for Lange, I have the Dato Perpetual (WG), Langematik Pe...
Based.....
on what you have..... Definatelly the Cartier... Have you tried on? Cheers
Thx for the vote Layton
I am not surprised about the objectivity. Many people who love Patek also love Lange... though some may be prejudiced towards Cartier... Cheers Sam
Patek ;-)
I really love that watch If I could afford it, I would buy it without hesitation The Lang is nice but the Patek is imo nicer. Don't like the Cartier. For that style I would prefer the The Corum Black Ti-Bridge
Thx Bruno
I have yet to see this particular Patek in the flesh. However, I've held the 5207P (the minute repeater) in my hands before and it was big and heavy (presumably because of the metal). Let's see... Regards Sam
Nice photos
I'd go for either the Lange or the Cartier. I've seen the Patek, and while it is handsome it is overly modern and not very legible in my opinion. The Lange is beautifully finished and probably the best choice in terms of construction and finish, both of w...
LOL of course nice photos :)
Thx for your input Jiaxian. Up to now, the votes are almost a 3-way tie, i.e. inconclusive. Goes to show that 'beauty is in the eye of the beholder'.... At the end of the day, I will have to make my own decision, based on what really complements my existi...
NEW pics for assistance in decision making
Lovely watch: The Lange is by far not too dressy, nor too much in your face! It offers ALL shades of gold, depending on the light. That makes it also a brilliant casual watch! The PP is more S&M ( yes: sado maso ) looking with these long spikes like baton...
Wow....thx Moritz
I got it...I got it... You lucky guy Don't you want to own the whole set? Sam
I am a humble collector...
... and enjoy responsibly ! ;-)! If my career developes further as it did and does: maybe the whole set. The first Turbograph with chain and fusee is my dream, as it is utterly classic in it's proportions! Top notch mechanics in a top, classic design. I a...
if it were
white metal ALS 1815moonphase, I will jump on it... good luck on your next prey.. HAGWE @Jogyakarta
The latter.
I just find it quite contemporary in design, I happen to be a fan of its complication, the fact that it is the most useful watch out of the three, and the most understated-looking watch out of the three. Though I also like the Lange as a close second.
Correct.
Nonetheless, as someone who already owns a PP AC perhaps the Lange. Be that as it may, owning another PP AC would be quite nice for your collection! As I said the AC in question is so understated that it is borderline hidden! Can't be bad when wearing it ...
My choice: A Lange & Sohne 1815 Moonphase in honey-colored gold
Mainly because its moon phases complication is one of the most accurate currently available and because I find the honey-colored gold case very original, exclusive and attractive. A question for you: you're sure it's possible to buy this model stand-alone...
Cartier!
Personally, I vote for Cartier. I don't like the looking on the others. For Lange, its noon phase doesn't look good...it tried to balance the dial, but i think it is too much. The guilloche on the dial looks bad too....And I don't like the PP, since its d...
Well, knowing the rest of your collection Sam, I would go for the Cartier!
They're all fantastic, of course. It's no use listing the technical reasons. But I think the Cartier is unique and special compared to the other two and will be a lot of fun for you to wear when you're heading to Fanling on a bright sunny day!
Thx Eric....Jesus....the jury is so divided....
what the hell...maybe I'll get all three!!! Sam
The Patek 5205 makes the hairs on my neck tingle...
it's the first new watch for a while which has sent a shiver down my spine. I would like to see it in rose gold, but a 5205 is on my shopping list... The Cartier leaves me cold, the Lange uninspiring...
Tough call, indeed....
It is hard to choose between ALS and PP but, after a second of thinking, i would choose the Patek. I love both brands but, given the possibilities, the PP is my choice. Best, R