I guess this pocket watch started it all

Jun 05, 2020,07:28 AM

Credit background catalogue picture Philips auction 27-28 June Geneva.

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Iconic pieces

 By: WatchAl : June 5th, 2020-07:48
Always a pleasure glaring at an cloisonné enamel dial

A similar pocket watch

 By: sham1 : June 5th, 2020-08:04
is being auctioned at Sotheby's Geneva currently in a pocket watch auction.

diehard fan (&owner)

 By: Passionata_george : June 5th, 2020-10:35
not for every occasion for sure but miss it every time she is away

safe deposit box [nt]

 By: Passionata_george : June 10th, 2020-13:01

Nice picture. Lovly watch.

 By: FRAMII : June 5th, 2020-10:43
New strap? Looks great

Here a few

 By: Maltie : June 6th, 2020-08:06

Looks great.. [nt]

 By: FRAMII : June 6th, 2020-08:44

Thanks 🙏 [nt]

 By: Maltie : June 6th, 2020-06:48

The enamel map of the pocket watch is so lovely ! However, the size of the “canvas” for the enamel dial of the pocket watch is....

 By: GLau : June 6th, 2020-07:00
bigger than our 5131s’ and therefore the craftsmanship for the 5131s IMO is just as good now ! Your thoughts on this point ?

Yep, also not into pocket watches, though it would be quite amazing to have such a unique, magnificent rare handcraft piece! ;-)

 By: FabR : June 27th, 2020-15:03
A very strong performance by Patek on many models so far, including an R gold 1518 (!) that fetched over $3.3M ;-) Here's the link to the auction, which will continue tomorrow from lot 110 on:

Yep, from JCB's own collection, but still...;-) I'm glad to see such excellent results (for Patek and, even more remarkably, FPJ).

 By: FabR : June 27th, 2020-15:12
Of course there's no guarantee that's how the market will consistently perform going forward, but these are certainly excellent signs for Patek, FPJ and also Rolex given the troubled times ;-) Cheers.

Sorry Fab but I have to disagree here. Too many anomalies to think that these results are anything legit...

 By: holdemchamp1225 : June 27th, 2020-15:33
I have been discussing the results with many knowledgeable collectors and auction goers for many years and it is very clear that something is VERY fishy here. A Batman and a Pepsi of ZERO significance hammered at DOUBLE high secondary market price. Many o... 

It sounds strange in concrete terms, but you may certainly be right. And while I think I know something about (Patek's) market, personally I have no direct expertise in auctions (I have never attended one, nor frankly I have much interest in doing so).

 By: FabR : June 27th, 2020-15:57
I also heard similar "rumors" about this auction (and about many of the lots involved, not just Rolex or Patek), but really nothing beyond rumors. Unless of course these results turn out to be bogus -- which is in theory always possible with auctions, but... 

I can assure you of one thing Fab, the results WILL continue to shock tomorrow as well...

 By: holdemchamp1225 : June 27th, 2020-17:03
I have been following auctions since 2008 and have an excel program and tracker for ALL results by model, reference, etc... This auction is ALREADY an outlier. We can communicate offline or via PM if you like since I don't want to tarnish this thread in a... 

PM sent. [nt]

 By: FabR : June 28th, 2020-12:47

Thanks 👍 [nt]

 By: FRAMII : June 27th, 2020-15:08

👍🥂 [nt]

 By: FabR : June 27th, 2020-15:13